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Posted 15th January 2007, 07:29 AM
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Moving a Pigeon Internationally


Hello again,

Due to circumstances in the future, it will be necessary for me to take Georgia (my pigeon) with me to college. It wouldn't be such a big deal, except that I am going to be attending a university in England, and I'm in the United States!

Does anyone have any experience with moving a bird overseas? I know they recently weren't allowing it because of the bird flu, but is that restriction still set? Does she have to be banded (she is currently not)? Are there quarantine restrictions, or anything else that I have to worry about?

I will be looking for answers to these questions on my own, but I hope that someone has some experience to provide to me. I really don't want to leave my dear Georgia here - she's my baby!

Thanks,

rialize


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I don't know all the ins and outs of doing it, but it can be done. I THINK there is a quarantine period of 30 days.......not sure on the length of time.......I'm thinking that you just might have problems because of the fact that the bird is not banded. And of course you can't band a grown bird, at least not with a permanent band.
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Hi Rialize,

You may need specific tests/certification from a vet, but I don't know at all for sure.

I did send a link to this thread to our members from England, hopefully they will
have some useful information for you to get going with.

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Hello again,

Due to circumstances in the future, it will be necessary for me to take Georgia (my pigeon) with me to college. It wouldn't be such a big deal, except that I am going to be attending a university in England, and I'm in the United States!

Does anyone have any experience with moving a bird overseas? I know they recently weren't allowing it because of the bird flu, but is that restriction still set? Does she have to be banded (she is currently not)? Are there quarantine restrictions, or anything else that I have to worry about?

I will be looking for answers to these questions on my own, but I hope that someone has some experience to provide to me. I really don't want to leave my dear Georgia here - she's my baby!

Thanks,

rialize

I've never moved internationally, let alone moved overseas and taken a pet with me.

Personally, IMO, I don't think lieing about anything is ever a good place to start.

I knocked around on the internet a bit and found this...

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm

... maybe the info you can drill to from there will help. There's a phone number there too. If you can hack the international phone bill, maybe it would be worth a call.

Good luck.
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Posted 15th January 2007, 09:53 AM
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There is definitely a quarantine period for importing any birds into the UK (prob anywhere in Europe). . Seems to be 35 days.

There are a whole load of rules which must be strictly followed, such as a vet inspection not more than 7 days prior to departure, a carrier up to international air travel specification (whatever that is), must be banded for identification (guess you'd get a clip-on band from Jedds, Foys or other such place), must be vaccinated against PMV....

Seems though pigeons cannot be classified as 'family pets', anyway.

Here is the link to the rules http://www.defra.gov.uk/corporate/re...rade/im194.pdf

I have no personal knowledge, unfortunately.. only what's on the web.

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Posted 15th January 2007, 11:51 AM
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I don't know about taking birds from the U.S. to Europe but I doubt it's easier than going the other direction and of course you would have to bring the pigeon back into the U.S. when you graduate.

I know breeders who import pigeons from Europe to the U.S. and it's time-consuming and expensive. The process involves lengthy quarantines, vet checks, paperwork, etc.

My daughter went to college in Rome and bought a canary while she was there. She was very attached to the bird and dearly wanted to bring her home, but upon checking into it she found it would cost more than 700 Euro, there was no guarantee the bird would survive the trip (canaries aren't nearly as hardy as pigeons) and on top of that, there are only a few quarantine centers in the entire U.S. and the closest one was hundreds of miles away. She wound up turning her canary over to a sympathetic pet store owner, which was sad because she'll never see her again.

Isn't there someone who could keep your pigeon for you while you're away at school?
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Posted 15th January 2007, 05:54 PM
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Hi Rialize

Rather than trying to collect information from various sites on the web which is very time consuming and can lead to more questions than answers it would be easier to send an email to Roger.Nelson@defra.gsi.gov.uk and explain your situation.
I had asked him about taking a pet pigeon from Greece to the UK last year and he set out what was needed, essentially a paper (signed by myself, not a vet!) that the bird is free from PMV sent a few days before arrival - no quarantine.

The PET travel scheme (misleading name) does not apply to birds, only animals that can get rabies.

Unfortunately, it is likely, as stated in John's link that a quarantine will be required in your case as the pigeon will not be coming from another European Union state. I don't know what happens if another bird gets ill in the quarantine premises, I think they kill everything, animal life is cheap for them.


England has one of the strictest import systems for animals in Europe.

Good luck

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