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2nd November 2005, 08:56 PM
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Baby Owl ??? Help!!!!I can not get anything to work now for the 'PixAlbums.net' website alaska was recommending...trying to use it has been VERY confuseing for me, so any advice there will let me get some images up of this little one.
'webshots' will not let me do any more, and no matter how many albums I delete, it tells me I have too many ( I have like nine or something and none more than a handfull of images, so..) Anyway...I "think" this may be a Baby Owl of some kind. The size of an adult Robin, but weighs 38 grammes and likely has been without any sustainance for some time. one little not much white and dark paste poo in the last five hours the people had him in a little cage, nothing in the half hour I have had him, so, likely way running on the big "e"...('empty') I have been trying to discover the 'Secret Masonic Handshakes' for inspireing it to wish to let me feed it, but to no avail. it hs a tiny Beak in the middle of long sensitive whiskers! and one big head, too... HELP !!!!!!! Any advise on how to feed a Baby Owl?????? Phil Las Vegas Last edited by pdpbison; 2nd November 2005 at 08:59 PM. 
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2nd November 2005, 09:11 PM
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Hi Phil,
Check out the link I provided in TAWhatley's thread about avatar changes. It's free, you won't have to go thru any site, it formats, edits, and lots of other goodies. You can do it all from your own computer. About the owl you are enquiring about, I don't think you can keep it but overnight, think it has to go to a licensed rehabber, could be wrong, but I think it falls into that protected species category. Doubt seriously it has been ordained into any esoteric group, otherwise it would have already given you the secret sign of the order. LOL, 'course you'd have to know the secret sign to respond.  Best of luck in finding a license to take the injured or abandoned one. fp
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2nd November 2005, 09:12 PM
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Okay, I tried the cursed 'webshots' again, and got 'em up there...they are under the images of the little Humming Bird...
http://community.webshots.com/album/311619096IbNlkc This is an unbelievably gorgeous little Bird, and I am very worries of his weight being so low. He has growled at times, and will sway aide-to-side if he feels a little threatened, otherwise, I am keeping him tucked in t he front of my shirt, like a 'Joey'. He DOES Fly!!!! And very well too, like a 'Bat' or like a Butterfly sort of...and silently... He took off at one point and riled the several Doves into their flying all about. Anyway, this is not an easy little Beak to try a 'meat pop' into...so, any tips on what-to-do would sure help me out here... Should I kill a Mouse ( I have many here) and get it's entrails out and dangle them from my lips like Poppa or Momma Owl would? Or...? Lol... Lemme know???? Phil Las Vegas
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2nd November 2005, 09:14 PM
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Thanks fp...!
I know... ...sigh... I am not able however to do anything on the PixAlbums site and am lost, I know you say it is easy, but I can not find any way to register, it demands my password, it lets me upload images then nothing is there for the album, and there are no edit or 'add images' options, and, so, I am lost! Phil Las Vegas
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#5
2nd November 2005, 09:28 PM
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2nd November 2005, 09:31 PM
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Hi Phil,
That isn't an owl, it's a whippoorwill or a nighthawk...they are insectivores and it's not a baby. You could probably get by with feeding it moistened cat or dog kibble for the short term. If you've got any mealworms, all the better  You will need to find a licenced rehabilitator though, good luck!
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#7
2nd November 2005, 09:41 PM
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Brad,
You are so good at bird ID. What would we do w/out you??? Why do you think it is "grounded"? fp
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#8
2nd November 2005, 09:52 PM
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Hi Brad,
Wow...! I know we do have some kind of Night Birds here, and when I used to fly the Oh-four-Nine "U-Controll" balsa and paper airplanes at night in parking lots, there were some kind of pale Bird that would try and catch the planes or intercept them skillfully. No mishaps ever thankfully, but amazeing! Hmmm... No 'tremors' anyway with this one, he is very steady. Eyes are very large and bright...but something must be not-right with him to have been in effect a 'ground Bird'. He had been found sitting on a waiste-high landscape rock at a Budget Suites Motel, in a courtyard, and it was felt by the Manager to be too risky for the Bird to do that, so he walked up to it and picked it up in a cloth and brought it in. Then spent a few hours trying to find someone to do something to aid the little Bird. Many people were gathering around the rock-perching little Bird, and people walking their dogs and kids and so on...so...pretty well lit interior courtyard area... I will maybe see if I can round him up some Crickets... He is looking quite comfortable in his warm-cage set up, on a little half-brick...see the last image I added after the initial bunch were up... Till next... Thanks Brad! Phil Las Vegas Last edited by pdpbison; 2nd November 2005 at 09:54 PM.
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2nd November 2005, 09:52 PM
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Hi FP,
It's hard to say for sure why it is grounded or why it was able to be caught. Could be sick, stunned or old and dying  Let's hope Phil can save him until someone more experienced person with this type of bird can be located.
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#10
2nd November 2005, 10:00 PM
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Hi Phil,
This type of bird catches & eats insects on the wing rather than catching them on the ground or digging them up. It would likely eat mosquitos, moths and any other nocturnal flying insects. If you feed it crickets, i would suggest taking the legs off and cutting them up into small pieces. You're welcome for the I.D. , good luck and keep us posted Oh and btw, a "nighthawk" isn't a hawk at all, it's just a bird in the same family as the whippoorwill Last edited by Pigeonpal2002; 2nd November 2005 at 10:02 PM.
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#11
2nd November 2005, 10:07 PM
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Hi Brad,
Wow...good call..! I did some 'googles' for Whipoorwill, and got some images that are him all day long... Well, I posted an additional image of him appearing to be quite contented on a half-brick in a warm Cage. He has been watching me and lightly dozeing also off and on, and is not 'growling' as much as before. He seems much more comfortable and easy, and I let him visit with tater a few times, and that seemed to help. No 'tremors' or palsies thank God. His reflexes and balance and co-ordination are good and as I mentioned, he flys quite well. I am worried on how something must be not-right with him to have been in effect, grounded, and to be so light. Anyway, he was perched on a waist high landscape rock at a Budget Suites Motel near here, and the manager said he knows the Bird was there for at least three hours, while he sort of kept an eye on the Bird, but because there are so many people, people walking their dogs, kids, unsepervised kids and so on, going through the well lit courtyard, the manager decided to bring the Bird in, so he just walked up to it and put a cloth around it and brought it in, then, a few hours of trying to get ahold of someone to aid the little Bird, he found me somehow. So...that's about all I can report for now. I will see if I can interest him in a Cricket maybe... Thanks Brad! Phil Las Vegas
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3rd November 2005, 12:22 PM
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Hi Brad, all...
"Common Poorwill" And wow, SO mysterious and beautiful, too. Made some several very tiny poops.. Seems to be feeling a lot better this morning, swaying side to side and growling at me if I get near, otherwise calm and composed. At first, for some reason, I thought this Bird was the size of a 'Robin'... But it is not, it is the body bulk of an adolescent Morning Dove, but only in relaxed Feathering, it is really a quite small Bird with the ability to make itself appear larger by how it manages it's Feathers...! So, it's weight of 38 grammes, while I am certain is "light" for him, may not be so terribly light as I initially thought. You pick him up and he feels almost weightless... ...and it's legs and Feet are the same size as, the same proportion, scale and shape as, and overall exactly LIKE those of a young Morning Dove, only these are grey Feet-legs instead of coral color orr pinkish...but really quite small delicate feet and legs. These are the softest feathers I have ever seen, so soft you can hardly feel them. If he is perching on my hand, he seems content and does not mind me a bit. If not, he sways back and forth ( kind of like some Parrtos do) and growls in a low voice. So, I have let him have his space and not bothered him since my initial examination of him last last night. Vent is clear, but the few little poops show yellow and black, so I think he may be ill with some infection of some kind. He flies quite well it turns out, 'like a Bat' ! - Loafing Butterfly-like flying, and totally silent. he tires easily and I did not let him do more than a little flying. I will call some of the Vets used by the license holder, or maybe I will call her ( ugh )...and see if they have any Poorwill savvy or as may be... Thanks all! Phil Las Vegas Last edited by pdpbison; 3rd November 2005 at 12:29 PM.
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3rd November 2005, 12:42 PM
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Hi Phil,
Thanks for the update on the poorwill, did you get clarification that this the species? Yes a Poorwill is/was another very possible suggestion on it's ID These birds are "stalkers" of insects during the twilight hours and like owls, have very soft feathers that enable them to fly very silently. They are like swifts and swallows in a sense too because they are mostly "on the wing" birds. Their feet are very small and weak because they don't really perch that often. I'm sorry but I have no reference to offer in what such a bird should weigh but I would have assumed it would be slight in any case. These birds are very small overall and rely heavily on their ability to fly well. At 38 grams, I would agree that it's probably underweight like you....perhaps it should weigh in the vacinity of around 80 grams. Have you been able to feed it anything...crickets, mealworms, or dog/cat kibble? I don't really have experience with these birds myself or their "ways" so I can't offer any help with coaxing or getting it to eat. Keep us posted and best wishes for this unusual straggler that you came across Last edited by Pigeonpal2002; 3rd November 2005 at 12:45 PM.
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3rd November 2005, 03:52 PM
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Hi Brad,
Thank you...! Well, I will soon bring this little one to see a very good Vet I seldom see, but he is the man for these appearently, and works under/with the licence people. I located a gal here who has done work with many of these "Common Poorwills" in the past, and she affirms most of your mentions, and also that these Birds are really quite tiny with feathers that make them seem much larger. Also, that they weigh "like nothing"...and eat, according to her, only 'On the Wing' and will reliably starve to death surrounded by all their favorite bugs if them and the bugs are not flying. So feeding them is understood to be next to impossible so far as provideing food for one who is caged. Supposedly, also, they do not drink but get all their water-needs from the flying Bugs they catch on-wing. They are principally nocturnal, and, this time of year, typically elect to hibernate, and select discrete little burrows or other to be underground for the Winter, or, sometimes, descending deeply into rock rubble or other to do so. The make their Nests on the ground and have usually two babys who are very tiny and frail. Now, she did not know if their almost-winter poops would be yellow-and-black, so she agrees for me to assuredly take him to this Vet who is familiar with the Poorwills generally. But she did say their poops normally are very small, oweing to how the Birds themselves are in fact so small. So, the 38 grammes might not be really much for indicating emaciation with this one, it might be clost to their normal weight in fact... Anyway, gotta run now! Till later...! Phil Las Vegas
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3rd November 2005, 05:09 PM
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Any news on the little bird?
I had someone give me an injured "owl" too, after research mine was a night hawk, beautiful birds they are very light and Mine ate crickets without problem.The rehabilitator centers I had in my area told me it was nothing important and to "put it in my dumpster"....  There arent any vets that knew anything about him and his wing was hanging by a thread so to speak,he was young, probably still following mom around but no mom to be found.I gave him a comfortable quiet space and food and cleaned him up and when it seemed he may pull through he died, probably from an infection of some kind internally. I was unsure what to do with him if he lived, being that he flys to catch food and with one wing unable to do so, I dont know if i would have been able to teach it to eat from ground level and where to keep it and keep bugs in there for him to eat. my research online said they actually will fly over water and scoop it up in flight! I was in the process of tring to teach mine to drink from a dish. Im curious on what you find out incase another "owl" appears on my step.
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