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Old 24th July 2006, 10:57 AM
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Thanks Cynthia, will give some Ivomec.

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Old 24th July 2006, 11:03 AM
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Sadly animals are literally "eaten alive" by maggots.

This is a hedgehog site, you will see they recommed an injection of Ivomec after the removal of the maggots.

http://www.thehedgehog.co.uk/health.htm

And just for the interest factor , this is information on how a specific type of maggot is used in wound therapy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_...cal_Experience

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Old 24th July 2006, 11:10 AM
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Got it! This, from a news report on therapeutic maggots explains why we disagree on whether or not they eat healthy flesh.!

Greenbottle larvae are used because they are known only to digest dead tissue and do not burrow down into live flesh.

Other larvae, for example, the screw worm, do eat living tissue.



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Old 24th July 2006, 11:32 AM
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Thanks, Cynthia, for the maggot article! I've heard of maggot therapy but didn't know "details." Now we know just what kind of maggots are used and why! Really comprehensive and answered questions I had...

Mmmm, wonder if Barbaro would be a candidate???

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Old 24th July 2006, 11:45 AM
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And just for the interest factor , this is information on how a specific type of maggot is used in wound therapy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_...cal_Experience

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I was just about to post the same link Cynthia.

I saw a show on 'maggot therapy' on the Discovery Health Channel & it really was quite interesting. This type of therapy has saved many fingers, hands, toes, feet, etc.

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Old 24th July 2006, 01:46 PM
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Hi Cynthia,

Thanks for the clarification and further information on maggots. I am hoping the maggots troubling this bird are the beneficial kind and can be dealt with quickly.

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Old 24th July 2006, 02:22 PM
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I don't think that maggots in wild animals can be beneficial. In medicine sterile maggots are used in small controlled quantities but in wild animals with fly strike there are hundreds at a time, too many to restrict their consumption to necrotic tissue so when that runs out they apparently eat the healthy tissue. As I said, they are not fastidious. Also because of their large numbers they produce a lot of toxic waste products which would be harmful to the "host".

For the record (in case we have further cases) there is a larvicidal product called Negasunt made by Bayer, which contains coumaphos, propoxur and sulphanilamide, but that might not be suitable for small animals and birds.

A topical maggot killer can be made up by mixing 1 part Ivermectin with 9 parts tap water, to be used immediatly after and any left over discarded because it is unstable.

I gave Maggie (my fly strike dove) 1/2 drop of Metacam because she was in pain but have since found out that the administration of an NSAID helps counteract endotoxic shock brought on by the maggot-produced toxins.

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Old 24th July 2006, 04:14 PM
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Great info, Cynthia. Thanks.
Unfortunately the poor baby died before I could get there. It was to late for her.
Another heartbreak. Now have to think how to get the aligator out of the pond. See whom we can contact.

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Reti, I am so sorry this little guy didn't make it. Sounds like it would have been a super challenge but I know you would have given him your usual best effort.

I wish some of the information in this thread could be put into a sticky. It has a lot of good information that I never knew.

The only exposure I've had to maggots was actually by a phone call from a lady a few years ago. She had a finch nest in her yard and somehow one of the parents died in the nest and maggots were on her and had moved to the babies. To make a long story short, she got as many of the maggots off as she could and put the babies in a fresh, clean basket and put it on her deck. Other finches came to the deck and not only fed the babies but picked the rest of the maggots off. She put the new nest back in the tree and the family of finches finished raising the babies. It was a wonderful story.
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Now, there, see? Sometimes things work out in reverse--in that case it was the maggots that got eaten alive!

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P.S. I don't want to appear flippant but this sounded like a lost cause from the beginning to me. I am sorry that the bird didn't make it.

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Reti,

I too, am sorry to hear that this bird didn't make it. Thanks for trying.

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I'm sorry to hear the duck didn't make it, poor thing.

I certainly do hope the alligator is removed from that pond.
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Darn, Reti...all I can add is what's been said by others: I'm so sorry the duck did not make it!

I DO hope that alligator is found (not distroyed) as he/she could be a danger to many others!!
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They will probably remove him, hope too they won't destry him, just put him in the Everglades.

Maggie, that is a wondeful story. I didn't know finches are such social little guy.

Thank you all.
This poor duck sounded bad from the beginning, poor thing.
This is a nice lady who rescues anything that needs to be rescued, including pigeons. I undestood she has a few rescued pigeons. So, I am glad I found another good person here in Miami, we so desperately need them.


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I am sorry Reti!

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