Can Mourning Doves and Ringneck Doves...

[pdpbison]

Hi everyone,


Was just wondering...kind of an academic question...

Does anyone now whether Mourning Doves, and Ring Neck Doves, can be disposed to pair up to produce viable offspring?


If say, a Ring Neck Hen and a Mourning Dove male were to find eachother in the same surrounds and felt the desire to make a Nest and so on?


Thanks!

Phil
Las Vegas

[Pidgey]

The more likely scenario is that one will be shortly in mourning after having rung the other's neck, though.

Pidgey

[mr squeaks]

Originally Posted by Pidgey

The more likely scenario is that one will be shortly in mourning after having rung the other's neck, though.

Pidgey

Pidgey...that's not a nice play on words!! Baaad Pidgey...

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by Pidgey

The more likely scenario is that one will be shortly in mourning after having rung the other's neck, though.

Pidgey

Hi Pigey,


Well...I was just wondering...

Saw some Ring Neck Doves needing a home the other day, and I did not letm myself feel tempted since I am primarily rehabing of course and not wishing to gather House-Birds!

But, the Ring Necks did not seem much smaller really than Mourning Doves...so...got me wondering. The Ring Necks were Hens, and my two Mouring Doves are almost certainly males.

Do you think they would fight then?

Phil
Las Vegas

[Poofybird]

Originally Posted by pdpbison

But, the Ring Necks did not seem much smaller really than Mourning Doves...so...got me wondering. The Ring Necks were Hens, and my two Mouring Doves are almost certainly males.

Do you think they would fight then?

Phil
Las Vegas

Do you mean the ringnecks did not seem much bigger (not smaller)? Because Ringnecks are quite a bit bigger than mourning doves.

[pdpbison]

Hi Shirin,


Sorry, I mean the Ring Necks seemes slightly smaller than 'my' Mourning Doves.

If the Ring Necks tend to run larger, maybe the ones I saw were rather young yet...

But, even still, any ideas on how they'd get along?

Just wondering academically...


Thanks!

Phil
Las Vegas

[mr squeaks]

Hopefully, someone will be along to answer your question, Phil.

We have Ring Necks, Mourning and White Wing Doves here. For some reason, only White Wings and Mourning doves feed on my balcony. I never see the Ring Necks except in other areas around.

The White Wings seem the biggest and most aggressive bullies - at least the ones who seem attracted to my seed feeder! Mournings are next in size. The Rings I have seen tend to be the smallest. They are also the only ones I have ever heard laugh! Soooo funny!

[JGregg]

Apparently ringnecks can mate with mourning doves and produce offspring, though their infertile so you can only have an F1 generation.

http://www.internationaldovesociety....es/hybrids.htm

[pdpbison]

Hi JGregg,


Hmmmm!

Thank you...interesting...


While the list ( the link takes one to ) does not make mention of Mourning Dove - Common Pigeon hybrids, I do seem to recall such being known...but I do not recall anything being said of their reproductive viability as hybrids...

Always an interesting matter...hybrids...


Phil
Las Vegas

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Originally Posted by pdpbison

Hi everyone,


Was just wondering...kind of an academic question...

Does anyone now whether Mourning Doves, and Ring Neck Doves, can be disposed to pair up to produce viable offspring?


If say, a Ring Neck Hen and a Mourning Dove male were to find eachother in the same surrounds and felt the desire to make a Nest and so on?


Thanks!

Phil
Las Vegas

I have seen a case of a Homing pigeon and a Ring Neck Dove going through the various mating rituals, but I don't know if any offspring were actually produced. I do know that Homing x Mouning Doves have reproduced. So my guess is, it is possible, although when the genes line up, they will cause the offspring to be sterile.

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Originally Posted by JGregg

Apparently ringnecks can mate with mourning doves and produce offspring, though their infertile so you can only have an F1 generation.

http://www.internationaldovesociety....es/hybrids.htm

Wow...that is a heck of a link. I never knew that someone actually attempted all those crosses, and I didn't know there were so many varietys of doves. It just goes to show, that when you think you have amassed some knowlede on the subject, it turns out that I know so very little after all.

[pdpbison]

Hi Warren,


I know, that is a heck of a List there!


One gets the impression these experiments were done at least 90 years ago...


Phil
Las Vegas

[Nuke]

Hi,
Hybridizing wild doves of anykind should not be practiced,only for research studies like what that list is about...One should strive to raise birds that are pure to their wild form.

[SmithFamilyLoft]

Originally Posted by Nuke

Hi,
Hybridizing wild doves of anykind should not be practiced,only for research studies like what that list is about...One should strive to raise birds that are pure to their wild form.

What exactly does "Pure to the wild form" really mean ? And why exactly should this practice not be done ? I sort of have some family ties to the farming community, and the practice is done quite a bit in this area, since mules are used a lot by the Amish community.

[Nuke]

I am not talking about farm animals or poultry.If someone has a collection of wild or exotic animals and birds they should keep them genetically pure like there supposed to be unless someone is reaserching them and needs hybrids.
For example,if you had a pair of triangular spotted pigeons and a pair of olive pigeons,or if you had a pair of squatter pigeons and a pair of spinifex pigeons you would be best off not interbreeding them.Wild hybrid birds are worth nothing.