Pictures From A Very Strange Day - Nov 10, 2005

[feralpigeon]

Another couple of questions, on the Sharp Skinned hawk, I'm also seeing the name Sharp Shinned Hawk. They appear to be one in the same although I'm not certain. If so how did it come about that they are called two different names for same bird? And on the Coopers Hawk, is it's tail also square when perched.
Can anyone clarify? Brad?? Thanks,

fp

[TerriB]

Terry, these posts are like a favorite newspaper columnist. When I notice a new one, I know it will be interesting and informative. That hawk certainly looks like he would resent any interference! Eesshh! Perhaps chain mail gloves would be called for. Poor little budgies - how terrifying for them and the children who witnessed the attack! Although, looking at the big picture, perhaps you could suggest a visit from a naturalist in the near future to reduce the anti-raptor sentiment.

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi FP,

As far as I'm aware, there is no such thing as a sharp "skinned" hawk...at least not in North America

A coopers hawk's tail *might* looked squared if it was perched but a sharp shinned hawks might look more indented...kind of like a purple martin's tail but not as defined.

Originally Posted by TAWhatley

The hawk that comes to my backyard every 7-10 days is a brazen hussy and will stand her ground trying to stare me down until she sees the hose come out. Then she leaves because she knows I'm going to spray her.
Terry

LOL!!!!! I LOVE your commentary, choice of words and description of this Terry, LOL

[feralpigeon]

Hi Brad,

Actually, that is what I was getting confused about 'cause they seem to use both names and they are in North America. In fact some html's will list sharp
skinned and some sharp shinned. But they both seem to be describing the exact same bird.

Oh well......

[TAWhatley]

Got this from a waterfowl rescue person ..

Looks Coopers hawk to me. Sharpies are smaller, but sometimes I cant tell without seeing size and tail etc. I am judging by the fact it looked like he was in a plastic carrier and filled it up. Here is a really good site with picture of sharpies and coops next to each other. http://www.ggro.org/sharpie.html

Terry

[pdpbison]

Hi Terry,


Amazeing that a Hawk would do something like this..!

Is this particular Hawk missing it's Tail?

I prolly ought to have my old rideing gauntlets handy in case I should happen to need to pick one up or have them perch on my hand...!

I bet those Talons could dig in pretty nicely... & and maybe


Phil
Las Vegas

[upcd]

is our pet lovebird. Coopers hawk those are the ones that love pigeons, to come over for dinner. so Brad does the hawks? Do all the rehabbors have there special creatures?

[Trees Gray]

Do all rehabbers have their special creatures?

My friend who has been a rehabber for years, rehabs them all and animals too. She has rehabbed hawks, ducks, chickens, geese, pellicans, gulls, pigeons, Sand hill cranes, parakeetes, lovebirds, doves. She recently rehabbed one of those long necked birds, that looks like a snake in the water when it catches its food, really neat looking. The water foul she gets usually have some kind of toxic poisoning, and/or injury.

She does not do raccoons because there are now, in fact, rehabbers that specialize in them in our area. She does squirrels, possums, rabbits, (usually orphans) and she also has turtles.

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi Debbie,

No, I'm not a rehabber of hawks or any other birds actually. Just an interested "birder" is all

Btw, your lovebirds are very sweet and beautiful, thanks for posting their picture

[feralpigeon]

Well, not sure that this alone will prove I'm not daft, but here's a link to Audobon web site listing Sharp Skinned Hawk. There were many others, although I also saw lots of Sharp Shinned including the Golden Gate Raptor site;

http://www.audubonart.com/02_gall_OCB1.asp

Scroll to bottom.

fp

[Pigeonpal2002]

Hi FP,

I never thought you were daft at all and I believed you when you said that you'd seen sites calling it a Sharp Skinned Hawk

It's obviously just a spelling error on their part is all. The net is fallable in many ways and people make mistakes all the time

You should pick up one of the various field guides to North American Birds, you seem very interested in hawks and any of the good guides will have em all in there. I have several of them myself that I've collected over the many years

[feralpigeon]

Hi Brad,

I was talking w/a fellow at work about that just yesterday. There is so much
bird drama there right now because of all of the hawk activity. The campus is
located at the beginning of the hills w/a woodsy setting and we are constantly sighting hawks. It would be great to have a book there. Guess we won't get
the Audobon one .

fp

[TAWhatley]

Originally Posted by pdpbison

Is this particular Hawk missing it's Tail?

I prolly ought to have my old rideing gauntlets handy in case I should happen to need to pick one up or have them perch on my hand...!

Hi Phil,

Nope, this hawk has quite a sizeable tail. Yep, definitely don't be handling this type of bird without some protective gear.

Terry

[TAWhatley]

Originally Posted by upcd

is our pet lovebird. Coopers hawk those are the ones that love pigeons, to come over for dinner. so Brad does the hawks? Do all the rehabbors have there special creatures?

Hi Debbie,

Loved the picture of your lovebirds! Yes, Coopers are especially fond of pigeon and dove.

Some rehabbers specialize in certain types of birds and animals and others do them all. I have to be sub-permitted by my friend Susan to take the protected species of birds when she is out of town. It requires both a state and a federal permit to rehab birds that are protected under state and federal law. In most states only English Sparrows, European Starlings, and Rock Pigeons can be rehabbed without a permit. Since I do not hold the necessary permits I rehab only non-protected species of birds but often rescue protected species and then transport them to a permitted facility for rehab.

Terry

[Lady Tarheel]

Treesa mentioned her friend rehabbing the long necked bird. I think I may have mentioned this awhile back, but if any of you ever encounter an injured HERON, just leave him be until you can get help. Their necks can be deceiving - they may look short sometimes but are really long. They can "uncoil" that long neck in a heartbeat and the first thing they go for are your eyes. It takes someone skilled to handle these birds.

Maggie