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Old 14th July 2005, 05:05 PM
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Severe Case Of Ruptured Air Sac(s) - July 14, 2005


Here are some pictures from today. There has been some
discussion on a couple of lists lately about ruptured air sacs
in birds. The first series of pictures today is of a cat caught
sparrow with a severe case of ruptured air sac(s). This poor
little bird is going to need several deflations as s/he started
to puff up again almost instantly after the first draining off of
the air under the skin. This little one is pretty beat up, and I'm
not at all sure s/he will make it.

Then come six new darling ducklings and a couple of shots of
Eddie and his friends.

http://www.rims.net/2005Jul14

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Old 14th July 2005, 05:18 PM
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Terry,
Thank God for you, always there giving comfort to some little'un who needs it. You know , I have two cats, two "indoor only" cats, partially to protect wildlife, partially to keep my cats safe, partially to help maintain what little sanity I have. With the cats in the house, I don't have to worry about them getting killed outside.
That poor little sparrow does look pretty pathetic. He is in the best of hands, and at least, if he doesn't make it, he dies when it's his time, and not be being eaten alive.
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Old 14th July 2005, 05:32 PM
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Wow, Terry...I've never seen a ruptured air sac that bad. I know he is in your capable hands, I know you are dealing from one minute to the next with that little one, I hope for the best....

The various ducklings are such a colorful blend together, one happy little group, and Edie......what a difference....she looks great!

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Old 14th July 2005, 06:11 PM
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Thank you Terry for all you do...I/we all know how much time & emotion is involved in rescue (I don't want it to sound like a burden, it's a labor of love).

I pray there are happy endings for all of these innocent babies.

Is the sparrow well enough that he asks for food like such babies do, or is that wishful thinking. ???
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Old 14th July 2005, 06:47 PM
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Is the sparrow well enough that he asks for food like such babies do, or is that wishful thinking. ???
S/he did, indeed, gape as soon as the air was drained that the tremendous pressure on his/her little body was relieved. The little one has had a good meal and the last draining seems to be holding at least for now.

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Old 14th July 2005, 07:02 PM
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Terry,

So happy to hear that the poor baby has eaten and is doing better for now. Those pictures were hard to look at.

On the other hand, it was a delight looking at the beautiful ducklings. The many different colors made reminded me of a beautiful bouquet of soft, downy flowers.

Good luck with all the various patients.

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Old 15th July 2005, 02:38 PM
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Hi Terry,


Ohhhhhhh...ouch...

...sigh...

This looks to be an otherwise healthy little young adolescent Sparrow, and, as you know, they are quite hardy in their (maybe delicate) way.

Glad he gaped! do you do the 'Sparrow Chirp' as if a sibling were asking to be fed?

I know sometimes that will get an otherwise recalsitrant one to start in with their own Chirp-gape...

except for the first-thing-in-the-morning, when one expects them TO chirp and ask to be fed, some are more liable than others for me anyway, to say, "Hey! Where's the chow??? Feed me!" so...good news in many ways if this one is interested in eating-being fed!

Golly, I have only seen a very few air Sac ruptures, Baby Pigeons that had fallen twenty feet straight down onto concrete, and the ones I had, healed up over some weeks with just love and good chow, and plenty of both.

Sparrows are such wonderful little Birds of course, and yours is one lucky little girl.

...do we suppose this was occasioned by a bad and likely long fall?

I would expect bruising to the Bird as a whole, and to it's various internal organs generally...

So, this is one very determined little Sparrow you have there, for sure, to still be at it, I would think.

Big Kiss for the little Sparrow's forehead...!

"poof"....there, I just blew it off the palm of my hand, so it is on it's way now...

Good luck!


Cute little Ducklets...!

"Waaaaak-waaaak"...murmer-murmer...and those little 'smiles' they can have...

Lol...

Golly...

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Old 15th July 2005, 06:00 PM
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Thanks everyone .. little "balloon" sparrow is looking quite normal as of now and is a little lean, mean, eatin' machine .. no problem with getting food into this one .. just in being there with it often enough and quick enough <LOL>! Will try to post a photo from today in a bit .. got lots of incoming today though and still busy getting all of them sorted out.

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You are amazing to be able to handle all these different cases. The
photos of the little sparrow with the ruptured air sacs are incredible. Hope the tiny baby is able to recover. Those ducklings are so cute and Eddie has really improved!
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Hi Terry...!


Glad to hear they are a lean-mean-eatin'-machine...!

Lol...wonderful...


...don't be shy now to plunk in the occasional dab of (Mmmmm, yummmmm...) Water Pack Sardine...with some vivid Green 'Chlorella' powder on it. Yummy...

Gets it about as close to an insect and it's chlorophyll intestines and tummy-innards as any Boy or Girl could want. I guess a tiny dab of Braunschweiger on there too would do the stand-in for the Insect's Liver, more or less...

Damn, now I am getting hungry!


Gives them that nice 'Fish Breath' for the next Gapeing session...!

Kinda like Gilding the Lilly I know, being as they are so charming anyway even without Fish Breath...

Oh silly me...



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Great pictures. Just wondering what is that your feeding your ducks? Is it scratch or seed? Neither are healthy at all for ducks...
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Great pictures. Just wondering what is that your feeding your ducks? Is it scratch or seed? Neither are healthy at all for ducks...
In that particular picture is was wild bird seed mix. They get mash, crumbles, or pellets for one meal, seed or scratch for another meal, and assorted veggies and sometimes fruit like cantalope or watermelon as treats .. sometimes a few pieces of dry dog or cat food as treats. They also get to "free range" in the yard for bugs, slugs, and whatever other delights they can find for several hours each day.

I do realize that just seed or just scratch is not a balanced diet for a duck.

What is your recommended feed for domestic ducks?

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Old 18th July 2005, 07:56 PM
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Hi Terry, what precious little ducklings, thanks for the pics...and the sparrow,
yes, hard to look at. My favorite pic is the sparrow using your hand to hide from the camera, very adorable, and a good metaphor for the safety your hands provide.

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Old 19th July 2005, 03:02 AM
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Hi Terry,



My little tufted-head Duck youngster...

When I got her, and I had never had a Duck before ( or since) most of my fast research seemed to find that everyone said to feed them mash and pellets and so on...

So I bought a 96 lb Bag of top-notch Purina stuff for Ducks and she would put her sensitive little Bill into it, it in Water, and kind of pause politely and then turn away...

I was to try it in many forms and with various additions and she never liked it.

I tried some, and I thought it was pretty good, kinda like 'Milk Bones' overall, if maybe a mite sweeter even...

Oh well..so I did some more internet looking on what Wild Ducks eat...and well, they eat all the kinds of things I would eat, more or less, if I were wild, so...it was easy then...

So, I decided I would let her tell me what she wanted to eat, and I am not the best listener, but what we ended up with was...

In a typpical 1920s white Enamel and smallish deepish rectangular pan...I would put any or all of the following -


Canned (and NOT 'farm raised') Alaskan Salmon, Sardines, Sprites, Mackeral, any kind of ripe Fruit bits cut small and thin, or sometimes Canned 'water-Pac' Fruit biuts cut thin and small...sheet Sea Weed cut with scizzors into small bits ( everything in smallish bits really, ) rolled Oats...rolled other Grains...frozen Peas, frozen Corn ( thawed of course!) shredded fresh Carrots, ditto Radishes, ditto Zuccinni, ditto other veggies ( hand shredded, and I ALMOST ran off with some of the rent money to buy a 'Cuisinart' thing...)

..."Uncle Sams" Flax Seed Breakfast Cereal...assorted Sushi of the Fish kind and or of the Vegetable kind ( sold in bunches of six or eight for like four bucks in some stores here, and I'd feed her a couple of them off and on since I sometimes buy them for me, and they have Rice in them of course and dabs of Seaweed and little veggies and so on...various kinds of small tender 'Sprouts'...Whole Grains like Oat Groats and Barely and Wheat and so on...

These ingredients I would put some or various of them into her white Enamel pan, and cover the whole with filtered Water so the Water was about two inches deep.

And that little Bill, and the amazing speed and sensitivity of it, and of it's action in the whole Water pumping-filtering-feeding yes-to-this, and or sometimes no-to-that ingredient, at lightening underwater speeds, in the manner that Ducks have in eating things in Water, well...that little Bill would go-to-town...accompanied by murmers or even squawks and squeals of delight.

This diet also made very nice poops which one could pick up in a kleenex, and almost never a 'loose' or runny one.

I also added sometimes some other things that I do not remember now.

She LOVED to eat and was a joyful feeder and very vocal about it, and if she did not like an ingredient, it would mysteriously remain down on the bottom, under murkey Water, when all else was gone!

Sometimes I used 'Trader Joes' Canned Corn ( very good by the way,) or I cut the Kernels off fresh Field Corn and used them...sometimes I used frozen Corn of some brand or other ( also very good) and she liked them all...

Baby Lima Beans sometimes too...frozen kind.

She liked the frozen Peas better than Canned Peas, which I was not surprised at.

I fed her about four times a day, maybe more, and I'd set that little pan in a larger shallow pan to keep things more tidy as for possible spills...

Almost every meal would have Fish in them to one degree or another.


I really loved that little Duck...golly...

...sigh...

Anyway, that's my Duck feeding experience, in a nut-shell...

And she seemed happy with it.

I think she may have been someone's pet before I got her, because if she saw you with a Box of Cereal, or heard one rustle, she was all ears and murmers and tensely anxious to have some!

Lol...

Love,

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Old 19th July 2005, 09:59 AM
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Mazuri waterfowl feeds are probably the best for good nutrition. Mazuri is a division of Purina. In my area all Mazuri products are special order and are very, very pricey. Purina does make Purina brands of waterfowl feed, but these are also not carried in the local feed stores and are special order. Mazuri can be ordered on-line. It's kind of a moot point anyway as my rescue waterfowl don't really care for pelleted food .. none of them.

http://www.mazuri.com/

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