Litter?

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by lance_harmon

Sand is the best litter. I dont use it but that is what i have read.

some love it others hated it, I for one would not like sifting though it like a big litter box...too much trouble, and the birds would pick at it and it would have poop mixed in, it can get moist in humid weather too. IMO a bare floor scraped daily is good, using the pineshavings and stall dry is just for the poop to dry out better for easier scraping, the loft dressing is like a powder and use to disenfect and dry out wet spots from the droppings after the loft has been cleaned.

[Deluhathol]

Originally Posted by lance_harmon

Sand is the best litter. I dont use it but that is what i have read.

Sand is nice and really easy to sift clean. The only issue with it is that sand retains moisture extremely well. so if you manage to spring a leak in your loft durring the rainy seasons the amount of moisture that gets retained could cause problems for you and your birds.

[windyflat]

I use no litter and just scrape twice a day then sprinkle a little Belgian white under the perches after I hand feed the birds. My loft sections are small so It's no big deal for me to clean twice daily.
I used to use the wood pellets but I prefer a clean wood floor these days.
I also keep a pair of shoes in the loft that I slip on after entering the loft so I do not walk into a loft section with wet or muddy shoes on my feet.
Tom

[SODOVESFORLOVE]

I have used corn cobb bedding for years and seems to be fine in the loft.

[TerriB]

Originally Posted by windyflat

...I also keep a pair of shoes in the loft that I slip on after entering the loft so I do not walk into a loft section with wet or muddy shoes on my feet.
Tom

Excellent point! Having loft shoes helps keep poop and feathers from your house. It also helps protect your birds from contamination that your street shoes might have picked up.

[dogging_99]

This is what I've settled on and it works well.
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/album....ictureid=11482

75% Sand, 25% Sweet PDZ, 2% Diatomaceous earth.
Cleans easy, not dusty, stays put, Birds can eat it. smells good in loft.
dries the droppings up quickly.

[Jazzman]

Originally Posted by kingsley hannah

i like the idea of the belgum whit however nobody stocks it in nz so i too have experimented with diferent floorings and settled on a bare floor scraped once per week, i add dry sawdust under the purches and this seems to work well

Belgium white from Foy's is a great product. Really all it is though is chalk, like they use to stripe athletic fields. I've been meaning to ask at the feed mill if they have or can get chalk. The price comparison between the two might be interesting.

[george simon]

Originally Posted by dogging_99

This is what I've settled on and it works well.
http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/album....ictureid=11482

75% Sand, 25% Sweet PDZ, 5% Diatomaceous earth.
Cleans easy, not dusty, stays put, Birds can eat it. smells good in loft.
dries the droppings up quickly.

What is SWEET PDZ?GEORGE

[dogging_99]

I Google
its Clinoptilolite
http://www.galleries.com/minerals/SI...i/clinopti.htm
http://www.sweetpdz.com/other-uses.html#dogcats

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by george simon

What is SWEET PDZ?GEORGE

What is Sweet PDZ?

Zeolites were formed from volcanic activity millions of years ago, and it should be stressed, that all zeolites have unique characteristics and abilities. The clinoptilolite (Clino) that comprises Sweet PDZ is one of the very best at ammonia absorption and odor neutralization.

Classic/Powder: This is the original Sweet PDZ product that was introduced in 1983. The key advantage of this small particle size is the fact that a person can more thoroughly and comprehensively cover the wet spot or problem area. This results in a faster acting performance of absorbing and adsorbing the ammonia and odor. Many Sweet PDZ users translate this faster performance to better performance, and will swear that the Sweet PDZ Classic/Powder outperforms Granular. Who are we to argue with our customers? An additional benefit to some users, is the fact that the Powder usually has a lower retail price. As much as $1.00 less per bag versus Granular Sweet PDZ.

Granular: We introduced Granular Sweet PDZ as a result of some customers requesting a larger granule size. Many of these customers were using stall mats in their stalls, and they liked how the Granular product performed with their mats. Additionally, many customers liked the less dusty effect the Granular product offered when they applied it in their stalls. Some folks find that it flows more easily out of a cup or scoop when applying it, thus allowing for more efficient use of Sweet PDZ.

Granular Sweet PDZ tends to be the preferred product for application in pet habitats, such as cat boxes, small animal habitats, bird cages and dog runs.

[Hillybean]

I use a mixture...

Straw and wood chips....just enough to cover their flloor. I then, have pine needles, straw and bigger sized chips for their nesting boxes.

-Hilly

[Charis]

A really good reason not to use litter is that litter makes it, it impossible to monitor the poop.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by Charis

A really good reason not to use litter is that litter makes it, it impossible to monitor the poop.

yes your right, that is if someone is using the deep litter method, I sprinkle just enough to help with the scraping, believe me they leave plenty untouched by the litter for me to see...lol...

[bluebirdsnfur]

I use the deep litter method sprinkled with DE. I do however pick up poo laying on top every couple days. Their is always enough fresh poo on perches and ledges for my viewing pleasure . About once a week I add more DE to the shavings and stir it all up.

I have sand and paver base mix in the outside aviary and put a bale of straw out there for my guys to play on. Leave the straw baled.

[Sumit.Ghosh]

Hi,

I have a concrete floor which needs to be cleaned everyday. So I was going over the thread to look into viable options. However anything we use there is a problem the area around the water tub always remains wet. Any solution to that?

Here are the probable options that we might use.
Natural:
1. Sand
2. wood pellets
3. sawdust
4. shredded paper
5. corn cob
6. wood chips,
7. hay/straw

Mixtures:
1. floor dressing/loft dressing (powder) for using on a bare floor after sweeping floor
2. Belgium white from foys
3. horse stalls (dust free)
4. 75% Sand, 25% Sweet PDZ{http://www.galleries.com/minerals/SILICATE/clinopti/clinopti.htm}, 5% Diatomaceous earth