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[dovie]

No, no pigeons yet, only poultry. still researching : )...........

[StoN3d]

Cool....
Im Puerto Rican but the city wont let me keep chickens on my roof :P

[Pegasus]

Sometimes being too honest is not allowed when it comes to city zoning law but what I'm wondering, since you said you have some neighbors that have something bigger than 120 feet, I say just build a little smaller than 120 feet... I was told before that I can not build a loft in my backyard but I don't mind what they say (neighbors) just wanted to have a hobby and not a whole sale livestock, you know what I mean? And I wanted to added something more, my neighbors knows that I'm the only guy who have homing pigeons in the area (that they know of) , and I'm the neighbors handyman so that's another credit I got for them not to make any complain...I'm not saying that bend some rules sometimes but sometimes it works...

[dovie]

Could you do a canterlever structure? Maybe what counts is the square feet of the base of the structure.

[Gurbir]

how about you make the base less than 120 feet? But make it really tall. I got a crazy idea. Make stairs inside the loft, that will lead to a second floor on top of the bottom floor...if i had the time i would make it...sounds awesome lol. Like if you make the base, 6ft, by 6ft. But you make the loft like 11 or 12 feet high. And you make two floors, the joint between the two floors should be really strong though, so that you don't fall down through. And just make small stairs that are covered leading to the second floor. And you can have 3 lights in the loft, one on the bottom floor, one inside the staircase since it'll be a bit dark, and one on the top floor. And you can have ventilation on both floors. (Chicken wire etc) I think it would work out great

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by Gurbir

how about you make the base less than 120 feet? But make it really tall. I got a crazy idea. Make stairs inside the loft, that will lead to a second floor on top of the bottom floor...if i had the time i would make it...sounds awesome lol. Like if you make the base, 6ft, by 6ft. But you make the loft like 11 or 12 feet high. And you make two floors, the joint between the two floors should be really strong though, so that you don't fall down through. And just make small stairs that are covered leading to the second floor. And you can have 3 lights in the loft, one on the bottom floor, one inside the staircase since it'll be a bit dark, and one on the top floor. And you can have ventilation on both floors. (Chicken wire etc) I think it would work out great

Originally Posted by StoN3d

BAH!!!!
I think I finally found it
4-23.6 Administration; Permits; Section 105.
(a) Section 105.2 is amended to read as follows: "Work Exempt from Permit." Notwithstanding the foregoing, except for classified historic sites and property located within Chesapeake Bay Critical Area Overlay Zones, permits shall not be required for the following, provided that the construction does not result in any violation of this Subtitle: a one-story detached accessory structure on one- and two-family dwelling properties accessory structure only per property

The law is pretty specific, plus a "tall" building would be much more visible.

[StoN3d]

im going to rebuild the shed I have now.
its a 12x12 shed.
I will draw out some plans today and uplaod for everyone to see

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by StoN3d

im going to rebuild the she I have now.
its a 12x12 shed.
I will draw out some plans today and uplaod for everyone to see

sounds like a plan...cool...

[StoN3d]

here is a rough drawing of the new design
If anyone has any ideas on some changes please feel free to reply.
if anyone has a better design.. please feel free to reply
the shed is 12x14 and I need a spot for two motorcycles one being a 1700cc yamaha roadstar and the other being a 650cc yamaha vstar classic.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7vfyl0

[LokotaLoft]

where I live they say the same thing about people and only being able to have one shed on a property but all my neighbors have at least two or more even , size here isnt a consideration but you have to pay a fee if the shed is over a certain size ..i think the more you draw attention to what you are doing on your property the more problems you will have ..i used to have a huge shed on the property before that never was a problem but it seems if you ask thats when the problems occur and as long as your neighbors dont mind it isnt a problem for any regulations that may be in your town .. my neighbors love my birds and ask why I dont fly them more then I do , I fly them every day that I can they just cant tell cuz my birds never land any where other then my house lol the only thing is it only takes one person to ruin it for everyone else and complain so keep your birds well trained and you shouldnt have a problem

[dovecote1]

Originally Posted by StoN3d

Well.... after almost a month of calling ppl and asking questions and filling out building permit apps I was told today I could NOT build my loft
I was told I could modify my current shed but that will not be enough room.
Kinda sucks that I pay taxes and cant build a loft on my own property.
I was told the reason I cant build it is because they only allow ONE accessory building per home.
GRRRRRRRRRR im so mad :S

Put an old set of trailer axles under your new loft, add a trailer hitch, register it with the town/state as a trailer. No one can say anything about you having it then. Or put 24" of styra-foam under it and register it as a boat. Good luck ! I hope you get your loft !

[MaryOfExeter]

This is why I'm glad I live out in the middle of trees where no one knows/cares if we build something

[ace in the hole]

Sorry to hear about your problem. I am building a new breeding loft for my birds now because the Township would not let me use a camper trailor as a loft. I told them I used the 30 ft. camper trailor because it was portable and I did not plan on being here more than a year or two. But their blite law states that you can not use a camper for anything other than it was intended for.

You could check to see if they have anything in your local laws about camper trailors. You may be able to get away with having a camper in you back yard! I just made the mistake of puting mine right out in the open with a lage flight pen and an orange and white pigeon trap facing the road.

Ace