Doneks vs Dewlaps

[LUCKYT]

Your picture posted at 5:59 is one of the MOST Beautiful pictures of pigeons i have ever seen. And i have seen a lot. With GREAT respect, Dave

[ErcaN_S]

Originally Posted by g0ldenb0y55

ErcaN S - I like the way you constructed your nest boxes. I'll have to give that a try, thanks for posting that picture. By the way, very nice looking birds you have.

I added airing onto photos later, normaly these pic don't have airing. Because of this, while you construct to nest you should take care of airing against air circulation

How would you clean them? Btw nice birds. My uncle has Macedonian Doneks. Very cool birds. Its unbelievable the control the birds have when they are diving and spinning.

I hope, I can see your uncle's bird picture. Turkish doneks different than Macedonian doneks. There are also Macedonian doneks breeder in Turkey but I am just breeding this one. This birds fly lower. You can give a sign to Mecedonian 90 degrees to ground but for this kind of pigeon 40-50 degree we needed. It is more fancy to watch Turkish doneks and their diving & spinning more goodly.


DAVE:
We are chasing pigeon race and we often fly to them and trying to keep their performance at the top level. We wish, you will have seen this in our country.



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[TheGame]

ErcaN_S I don't remember exactly what family. I think they are Macedonian Doneks. I payed $30 for all 3. I got them from Bill Jacox. He has his own website which is www.doneks.com.

[ErcaN_S]

Originally Posted by TheGame

ErcaN_S I don't remember exactly what family. I think they are Macedonian Doneks. I payed $30 for all 3. I got them from Bill Jacox. He has his own website which is www.doneks.com.

I know Bill's web but there is no video to show their flying performance because of this it is very difficult to have any idea. Also, their price is very cheap you can not find to this price even birds street market. The best doneks price could decide during flying and their apprx price could change between $300 - $5000.

[TheGame]

Well I plan on breeding some youngs and then flying them. That is the only way to find out how their performance is!

[guvensancak]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Well I plan on breeding some youngs and then flying them. That is the only way to find out how their performance is!

Hello ;

It s the best way to understand what you have in your hand. In the mean time, we care about to know , what s the min 8-10 years past of our Doneks.

That s why, Donek is a deeples well. We need to keep our pation and see what we ll see...I wish best to you .

[TheGame]

Can someone give me tips on training the Doneks? I got 4 more from a friend and already have lost 3 lol.

[spirit wings]

you do know it is an old thread?, (February) maybe if you make a new thread you may ge more input.

[TheGame]

Hey Spirit Wings I do know its an old post but by me replying to it, it got bumped up to the top. So I didnt think it would be necessary to make a new one. Thanks though.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Hey Spirit Wings I do know its an old post but by me replying to it, it got bumped up to the top. So I didnt think it would be necessary to make a new one. Thanks though.

bumping again....
what Im trying to tell you is if you had a new thread some would read it, but some may not scroll down on an old thread after seeing the date to read further, only trying to help..

[TheGame]

Thanks for the tip. I will start a new thread.

[sunson]

It appears that Dewlaps are quite unknown as performing pigeons. Dewlaps (>500 gr)are much heavier than Döneks(300gr). In size and type they ressemble more a strong long distance hammer-headed racing homer with a rather long neck and, of course, the very typical dewlap-gullet. Most common are the black- and blue whitewings with the typical white snip on the forehead and the white 'earrings'. 
Their diving is also very different: Dewlaps dive strait (no rotation at all) with the wings applied to the body and from much higher (>400m) than Döneks which rotate axially during diving and mostly end the diving with a fast braking spin (like an helicopter propeller). The diving speed of the Dewlaps is astonishing, good divers always escape the diving peregrine falcon.
The problem with diving pigeons generally and Dewlaps particularily is that they need appropriate accomodations and very peculiar training methods in order to develop as performing pigeons. Many fanciers therefore give up the breed, being unable to get them in the air properly. But the fancier who can handle this pigeon gets a living cultural inheritance from hundreds if not thousands of years ago, because this is the bird considered from antiquity as the messenger to the gods.

If someone could tell me how to post photo's (jpg-format) in this forum/thread, I would be glad to show you Dewlaps recently imported from Adana and excellent performers.

I am also looking for an US pigeon magazine interested in publishing a ±5000 words article +photo's & illustration pertainnig to the Dewlap is all its aspects: origin, type, appearance, varieties, character, housing & accomodationds, care, flying- and diving-style, training, bibliography.
Could someone give me a hint?

[sunson]

This is a performing male Dewlap recently imported from Adana

Originally Posted by sunson

This is a performing male Dewlap recently imported from Adana

great looking bird there

Originally Posted by sunson

It appears that Dewlaps are quite unknown as performing pigeons. Dewlaps (>500 gr)are much heavier than Döneks(300gr). In size and type they ressemble more a strong long distance hammer-headed racing homer with a rather long neck and, of course, the very typical dewlap-gullet. Most common are the black- and blue whitewings with the typical white snip on the forehead and the white 'earrings'. 
Their diving is also very different: Dewlaps dive strait (no rotation at all) with the wings applied to the body and from much higher (>400m) than Döneks which rotate axially during diving and mostly end the diving with a fast braking spin (like an helicopter propeller). The diving speed of the Dewlaps is astonishing, good divers always escape the diving peregrine falcon.
The problem with diving pigeons generally and Dewlaps particularily is that they need appropriate accomodations and very peculiar training methods in order to develop as performing pigeons. Many fanciers therefore give up the breed, being unable to get them in the air properly. But the fancier who can handle this pigeon gets a living cultural inheritance from hundreds if not thousands of years ago, because this is the bird considered from antiquity as the messenger to the gods.

If someone could tell me how to post photo's (jpg-format) in this forum/thread, I would be glad to show you Dewlaps recently imported from Adana and excellent performers.

I am also looking for an US pigeon magazine interested in publishing a ±5000 words article +photo's & illustration pertainnig to the Dewlap is all its aspects: origin, type, appearance, varieties, character, housing & accomodationds, care, flying- and diving-style, training, bibliography.
Could someone give me a hint?

I sure wouldnt mind reading that article if you ever get to publish it