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Old 27th March 2008, 02:32 PM
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Flying flights


Can any one tell me if you can fly 10 or less flying flights, like NY flying flights, do they still fly as a flock, in other words, together, or would they have a tendency to fly individually.
I have seen pictures of NY flying flights, but only in large numbers.
I don't want to have a lot of birds. Thankyou, ND Cooper
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Old 27th March 2008, 03:51 PM
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Hi ND Cooper! I have no idea, but it sure is a good question. I am sure someone will be along who has more experience with this than I do. I'd be interested in the answer, too.
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Old 27th March 2008, 06:19 PM
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I'm also wondering if this breed of bird (NY Flying Flight) would fit into this environment (North Dakota), Wheat farms as far as the eye can see!
Would they want to have tall city buildings, with windy conditions, I would'nt want to obtain some, just to have them pack their bags and get out of dodge! ND Cooper
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Old 27th March 2008, 06:31 PM
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Hi ND Cooper! Did you do a search on them? I have no idea, but thought by now, some of the seniors would have been posting by now. I would think that googling that breed might give you some idea, a I am of no help so far I hope you find what you are looking for.
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Old 27th March 2008, 07:56 PM
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Flights definitely like flying in kits, even if it's just 10. The more the better probably, but I'm sure you could get them to fly in a group with less in the flock. It doesn't matter if they're in the city or not; they'll fly anyways. If they don't seem to want to fly, just get a long pole (preferably with a flag of some kind on the end) to shoo them off the roof of the loft (and try not to scare them too badly?). From the sounds of it, you have a nice place to have flying pigeons. Open skies would make it easier to get them up there. I have tons of trees so it's sort of hard to get my rollers and flights to want to fly. My homers have no problem but the rest...eh, they're just happy being lazy I guess
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Old 27th March 2008, 08:12 PM
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Let me try to find some stuff that might help. (or just some Flight related things you can check out)


http://pigeonracing.homestead.com/sa...g_flights.html
http://pigeonracing.homestead.com/Ba...g_Flights.html
http://pigeonracing.homestead.com/Th...ingFlight.html

Because so many things come up with 'flight', 'flying', and 'pigeon', it's hard to search and come up with something actually about Domestic Flights/Flying Flights. Add NY to ir and a bunch of unrelated stuff comes up. Hopefully someone that also has flights and knows more about them will come to give you more info.
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Old 27th March 2008, 08:30 PM
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hi , I have a handful of flying flights myself and although they are beautiful birds (I love the crested myself) they are a bit slower in flight then homing pigeons and it kinda makes it easier to be picked off by hawks if you have them around . Other then that they basically kit an fly the same as homing pigeons as mine fly with my homers .. I dont live in the city and Ive never ever had one fly off on me lol so dont think they prefer it and Im sure they would do well where your at too as long as you have a place for them to call home Im sure they will stick with you.. If you ask me they are very easy to handle, train and raise , mine are not as hyper as most homers are but when out they do like to clap their wings alot and show off ..they are very good at raising young and are very prolific too so you cant help but fall in love with them and I think you would love them too .. heres some older pics of some of mine in the loft but again the hawks seem to love them as much as me heres some of my flight pigeons Elvis and Red his brother in the second pic ,hes the red one
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/22595...Ddp?vhost=pets
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/20251...pVi?vhost=pets
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Old 27th March 2008, 08:47 PM
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heres a loft in brookyn that has probably some of the best flying flights around he used to have a great site but now its gone ,just something to look thru if you get a chance http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/20...altman-pigeons
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Old 28th March 2008, 11:04 AM
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Thank's Sue, Mary, and Lakota!
I did not realize that flying flights flew slower, than homers, In fact I thought that they were faster! But not faster than racing homers. Fast group flying, that is.
I really like the black+white coloring, but maybe that is what attracts the hawks
I'm trying to figure out some good backyard flyers to have, that really won't attract a lot of attention, that will fly good and I don't have to have a lot of them. I've considered rollers, but I don't want that much attention.
I've even considered a mix of Homer+ flying flight+Tippler! I wonder If anyone out there has attempted doing the same thing? I would probly have too many birds then.
I'm thinking tipplers might be the answere for me. I will keep my 6 old racing homers though, as I've never culled, and have NO interest in doing so!
ND Cooper, I've allready built a small roller kit box loft, but can't decide what birds to get
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Thank's Sue, Mary, and Lakota!
I did not realize that flying flights flew slower, than homers, In fact I thought that they were faster! But not faster than racing homers. Fast group flying, that is.
I really like the black+white coloring, but maybe that is what attracts the hawks
I'm trying to figure out some good backyard flyers to have, that really won't attract a lot of attention, that will fly good and I don't have to have a lot of them. I've considered rollers, but I don't want that much attention.
I've even considered a mix of Homer+ flying flight+Tippler! I wonder If anyone out there has attempted doing the same thing? I would probly have too many birds then.
I'm thinking tipplers might be the answere for me. I will keep my 6 old racing homers though, as I've never culled, and have NO interest in doing so!
ND Cooper, I've allready built a small roller kit box loft, but can't decide what birds to get
Any pigeons will attract hawks, but they just go after the ones that stand out. In a flock of black pigeons, they'll normally pick off the white one, or in a flock of red pigeons, they'll get the blue one. Still color doesn't matter much, because slower pigeons are always easier for them to get.

Homers are the fastest and will fly a long time if they feel like it (especially if they're not full, but not really hungry. and if it's a nice day). Homers and racers are basically the same thing, it's just racers are raced, and bred for the "best" racing ability. Anyways, tipplers or any other highfliers would be good. Tipplers and Flights will both fly for long periods of time, but I'm pretty sure Tipplers get up higher. I personally like homers more regardless of whether I race them or just have them to enjoy their loft flying (nice days with a bit of wind is really fun to watch ). I'm no matter what you pick, you'll end up enjoying them It's just hard to decide which to try...
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Old 28th March 2008, 03:11 PM
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I've been watching You Tube, Tipplers and Flying Flights.
So far, i'm leaning closer to Tipplers. My thinking is, that I won't need as many birds, plus for me , when they fly, It does'nt matter if they fly real high.
I'm just wondering about losses, not from hawks, but from flyoffs- non returns. I wonder if that would happen, too often for my likeing.
Further study is required. I'm keeping myself from getting in a rush
How long that lasts, who knows!
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Well you said you have a nice clear view for the most part right? That'll help if the birds get scared and fly a bit too far. We've had a few rollers scatter from a hawk, land in a tree across the road (out of sight of the loft from where he was sitting. we practically live in the woods), and just sit there. It took me letting go a few homers in front of the tree for him to finally fly up high enough to see the loft and come in. I don't know if he was just scared, or if he just wasn't the brightest pigeon

Good luck though. Hopefully it won't take too long to decide what to get and actually get them
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Old 30th March 2008, 08:44 AM
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Flying flights will kit together with just 2 birds flying,it's bred into them.They'll kit together in the middle of no where.The tipplers will fly way higher than the flights.I've flown both and the hawks like how they all taste! I like the flights because when they fly into the sun it shines through their flights and they almost glow,it looks great.If you want a high flying bird that stays up a long time and will even do some tumbling ,get some Iranian Highfliers.
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Old 30th March 2008, 08:53 AM
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Wallflower, How are they concerning flyoffs-non returns? 10% or more? How often?
ND Cooper, It could'nt be that much, I don't know... Bits of what i've read, tells me that it does happen. Is it a major concern?

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Old 30th March 2008, 09:28 AM
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ND,sorry which ones? The flights I've flown have homed pretty well.I've had them go out of sight for a while and all end up back in the loft.I gave some to a friend just about 10 miles from me,he let out some of the old birds by mistake and they came right back to my loft. I don't know about the Iranians I haven't flown them long enough yet.Another thing about the flights is that they are just about the best parents that you could find.
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