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Old 6th March 2008, 10:32 AM
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Why do rollers ... roll ? The truth


What causes Birmingham Rollers and tumbling breeds to roll and tumble ? I read several articles via Internet about the subject , some say its a siezure and a genetic defect in the birds , others say its a trait just as some hunting dogs are pointers and setters and just do what they are bred to do .

I fail to see how it could be a random siezure because they can all do the roll together after lots of flight hours and training . I suppose its possible , but it doesnt make sense to me how they would all do it together UNLESS one bird had a siezure and the others just imitated its actions , then another bird siezed up and was imitated ? Hmm , now I'm thinking too much

Maybe the birds just learned to get a kick out of doing backflips ? LOL .

Those of you that fly these fun birds , whats your take on it ?

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Old 6th March 2008, 02:55 PM
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Aloha Hambone,

Very good question. No one has really figured out the answer to that question yet.
My take on it is that it's not a genetic defect as some say but a trait that has been bred for. It's a trait like the exteme sense of smell that bloodhounds have. I also do not believe that it's a seizure in the sence of an epileptic seizure, because the birds have shown to be able to control the roll impulse. In fact the birds look as if they enjoy rolling.
I think that this will remain as one of the mysteries of life.
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Old 7th March 2008, 06:39 AM
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I think that this will remain as one of the mysteries of life.
Like how homers home!
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Old 7th March 2008, 05:21 PM
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Ive never owned rollers and I dont know much about them, but have you ever seen pigeons (homing pigeons) do those little swerves, drops and stunts while flying, that look as if they're trying to escape a predator? Maybe that has something to do with the roller trait. What do you think?
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Old 7th March 2008, 09:43 PM
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I know nothing about roller pigeons. But it seems to me it's an ability they possess for escaping predators quickly, and confusing predators... Or even distracting them... But I'd say they use the skill now to have fun. Homing pigeons sure have fun playing in the wind and flying.
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I know nothing about roller pigeons. But it seems to me it's an ability they possess for escaping predators quickly, and confusing predators... Or even distracting them... But I'd say they use the skill now to have fun. Homing pigeons sure have fun playing in the wind and flying.
Actually, I think the tumbling/rolling makes them more vulnerable? Which leads to the enormous conflict between birds of prey and roller owners/clubs. Witness the rather large 'undercover' case out west last year. Please correct me if I'm wrong! I think it would confuse me if I was after one...
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Old 12th March 2008, 05:15 AM
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Ive never owned rollers and I dont know much about them, but have you ever seen pigeons (homing pigeons) do those little swerves, drops and stunts while flying, that look as if they're trying to escape a predator? Maybe that has something to do with the roller trait. What do you think?
I think you have a good point. Maybe a variation of the behavior.
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Old 13th March 2008, 08:09 AM
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From what I have read about rollers, I would say that they are bread for their talent, because if they had a problem with their brains, you would think that other bad traits would show up also. Such as, loseing their balance in the loft ect. or whole famlies hitting the ground together, instead of just one.Or just plain going tard after a couple years, in otherwords, getting worse as time gos on, with no cure. Do they have the same life span (Natural) as other pigeons? I've had a r-homer hen that had to live 12 or 13 yrs.
If it's a defect, then you would think that their natural life span would be shorter, and their overall breed, collectively, would not be as successful as other breeds of pigeons.
But, the way mankind has changed pigeon breeds to his likeing, surely rollers are manmade. I don't think that there is one forest of trees somewhere overseas, where they all came from.
Do rollers have more problems ( very noticeable problems ) when the weather is warmer or hot? My 2 cents, ND Cooper
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