I'm new with a lot of question.

[firingo]

Ok like I say in the title, I have a lot of question.
Now is different pair what I believes the hens is ash red grisly and the cut is brown or diluted red.
The second pictures is the baby, as you can see will be black. But if you see the breast has white faders.

I'm corret when i say the colors of this pair?

What do you think?

Thanks.

[Print Tippler]

The hen is T pattern ash red grizzle with dirty and white flights and appears to also have a white tail also. The cock looks is an ash red bar with dirty. It looks like he may have a bronzing going on too, maybe im just seeing things. Anyways he is split for blue since cocks can carry two colors he is ash red and he carrys blue. The offspring doesnt look spread (black) but rather just blue bar. Could be a t pattern also but im led to say blue bar. He has sooty which is probably coming from the cock. Sooty makes flase checks and darkens the wing but on ash red can vary. He also has dirty and he is a grizzle it appears.

[firingo]

Hello Print Tippler.
Ok looks like I'm 50% correct, how do you know the hens is T pattern??
Thanks.

[rudolph.est]

Originally Posted by firingo

Hi.
Can I have stencil with this pigeon?? what color I need to add to have the stencil??

Thanks.

It may be split for stencil, but it is not definite. If it is split stencil, the only way to breed stencil would be to breed to a stencil bird or another bird split for stencil.

Originally Posted by firingo

Hello Print Tippler.
Ok looks like I'm 50% correct, how do you know the hens is T pattern??
Thanks.

The hen is T-pattern and not check or bar, because of the amount and location of red in her wig-shield. Bar grizzles only show a bar, never darker colour on the shoulder, check grizzles never show so much solid colur.

Print Tippler is right though about the birds. Baby looks like a blue bar with dirty and/or smoky and/or sooty.

The white feathers on the belly look like grizzle to me aswell, but there is not enough white on this bird, so maybe undergrizzle. Send another picture one the youngster has moulted the first time, the colour should be easier to describe then. Grizzle would become clearer or dissapear, and pattern will probably become more definite.

[firingo]

Ok, will do, I love to shoot pigeons with my camera
Thanks.

[rudolph.est]

As long as you only shoot them with a camera! ;-)

The olympics used to have a skeet shooting contest with live pigeons instead of clay ones! Can you belive it! Luckily it wasn't popular for long though.

[firingo]

That’s not right, what animal society say about?

[firingo]

Here is another pair of the same loft, as the fisrt pair, similar color

[firingo]

Rudolph, I was navigate from your site and I found that your are emerge in one projet that you call Archangel Bronze Homers, that's amazing, can you post some pictures of your bronze pigeon??, can you tell me more about.
By the way your site is real good.
Thanks.

[rudolph.est]

Thanks for the compliment.

I have been planning on taking pictures of my archangel bronze homer crosses, but have been rather busy of late. I will let you know as soon as I have been able to get some good pictures.

[firingo]

You fixed the Crest anomaly in your pigeon archangel bronze homer crosses??

[rudolph.est]

Originally Posted by firingo

You fixed the Crest anomaly in your pigeon archangel bronze homer crosses??

I am not sure what you mean by 'fix'? I just want to figure out the reason for the anomaly. I never should have gotten any crested in F1 generation, but I got 2 / 4, so there are 2 possible explanations (a dominant crest in the archangel or a recessive crest in the homer). Both would be rather unusual.

To be honest, I kind of like the crested crosses. Maybe I'll keep the crested gene too, and start a line of crested homers here. They are fairly common in some parts of the world.

[firingo]

What I am saying is if you eliminate the crested anomaly