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Old 18th August 2009, 06:34 AM
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Just some eggbid birds I thought looked cool


Browzing around and thought I'd share some colorful finds Genetics forum needs a wakeup, haha.


Dom. opal on recessive red? (Right? Or did this one not inherit the RR from the parents?)
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250651945


I couldn't help but laugh at the name of this one
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250157179
I can't even see where they'd get the 'dun' part from in that bird
Also this roller, which the name semi makes sense, if it was a black bird. Just a velvet though, or maybe just a heavy check, can't tell.
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250156957

Pretty khaki and ash-yellow mookees. And a question about the bird on the right in the bottom picture. Indigo on ash-red, or just dirty?
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250659063

This bird caught my attention because...well....I've never heard of lavender in Modenas? But sure enough, I guess it can be in them afterall
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250560202
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Old 18th August 2009, 06:44 AM
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Old 18th August 2009, 06:47 AM
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And some homers, for those who like to breed colors...
http://www.racingpigeonauction.com/A...m.asp?ID=70956
This looks more like opal than indigo...?
http://www.pigeons4sale.com/cgi-bin/...tem=1250898423
There's also a lot of other opal birds on Pigeons4Sale
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Old 18th August 2009, 07:02 AM
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Eggbid always cracks me up. Some birds on there are really good birds, and their price often reflects that. And then you have others...

I think there are four auctions with Frillbacks right now. Three of them should be giving those birds away. I feel bad for the poor person who actually pays for those birds, they aren't even worth the cost of shipping! No offense to anyone of course, I just get frustrated at the end of the breeding season when I have two or three "pet quality" Frillbacks that I would LOVE to GIVE away since I can't use them for breeding or show, and I see fanciers charging ridiculous amounts for crud quality birds that I wouldn't want in MY breeding program... lol... not to sound concieted... just love Eggbid sometimes...
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Old 18th August 2009, 07:13 AM
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I agree. I've seen a lot of pet quality birds on there for a pretty high price. Maybe not so much for the birds, but once you factor in shipping and a box, it gets pretty expensive!
Right now everything is moulting, which makes it worse But the one thing that really irritates me is when I see pictures of obviously sick birds for sale People must not realize the look of the droppings or the surroundings and still buy the birds.
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I agree. I've seen a lot of pet quality birds on there for a pretty high price. Maybe not so much for the birds, but once you factor in shipping and a box, it gets pretty expensive!
Right now everything is moulting, which makes it worse But the one thing that really irritates me is when I see pictures of obviously sick birds for sale People must not realize the look of the droppings or the surroundings and still buy the birds.
Yeah I agree with both...

You would not believe how many sick birds I see in the sale sections of SHOWS.
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Old 18th August 2009, 10:37 PM
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Browzing around and thought I'd share some colorful finds Genetics forum needs a wakeup, haha.


Dom. opal on recessive red? (Right? Or did this one not inherit the RR from the parents?)
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250651945


I couldn't help but laugh at the name of this one
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250157179
I can't even see where they'd get the 'dun' part from in that bird
Also this roller, which the name semi makes sense, if it was a black bird. Just a velvet though, or maybe just a heavy check, can't tell.
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250156957

Pretty khaki and ash-yellow mookees. And a question about the bird on the right in the bottom picture. Indigo on ash-red, or just dirty?
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250659063

This bird caught my attention because...well....I've never heard of lavender in Modenas? But sure enough, I guess it can be in them afterall
http://eggbid.com/listings/details/i...num=1250560202
Hi Becky

First bird is ash red and probably dominant opal, description seems accurate. It will be split for recessive red and will show more red bronze than one that does not carry recessive red. The tail is gray like ash red, not rec.

Second is just an ash red bar pied, common roller color and could be a good bird from the Reed line. Calling it dun is wrong of course but alot of performance guys and racers do not use genetic terms. Their colors are often a bit off but we get to know alot of them and just know what they are, like silver red bar (ash red bar) or chocolate (indigo to alot of homer guys).

Hard to tell if the blue is check or t pattern in the photo. Could just be a check with dirty and sooty. Dirty can make a dark line on the chest, this bird might show it, hard to say. Sooty tends to obscure patterns and make it's own false checks.

I don't see any indigo in the mookies, it makes ash reds pretty dark and often bronzy. Could be dirty or even smoky, both darken the base color.

I didn't know they had lavender modenas either but haven't paid much attention to them since they made them large for show. This one looks odd, almost spread indigo and if so, maybe dilute. I wouldn't bet on anything though.

You will find many mistakes on eggbid, but you can find them anywhere if you look around. Not everyone is a genetic enthusiast and many pigeon breeders haven't a clue. It would be nice if everyone did but it's not likely.

There are good and bad sellers on eggbid, just as there are on ebay or anwhere else. All we can hope is that feedback alerts the unwitting to prevent a bad seller from getting away with it.

I am mostly referring to selling sick birds, which people do. The quality is hopefully guaranteed by reputable sellers and we can see in the photo what the bird looks like. Performance is another story. I do know good people who sell on eggbid from time to time. It is a good place for people to get a decent price if they have something nice to offer. Some don't, best not to buy.

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with the mookees would they ship to canada? how do i contact the seller?
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with the mookees would they ship to canada? how do i contact the seller?
Just go to eggbid, find the auction and click on "ask seller a question". It's in the blue text, don't even have to be signed in.

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Old 19th August 2009, 09:36 AM
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I know a lot of people don't know the genetic names, but it's funny sometimes to see what they come up with to call it. Then you have a lot of people who go into a lot of detail of what color their birds are

Thanks for clearing up the birds I questioned about. I noticed the tail on the first one, but I'm not very familiar with 'what looks like what' when it comes to the opals on different things.


Also, the modena I thought maybe could be some type of andalusian, but I don't know. I've seen some darker 'lavender' lahores before that look similar to that color.
Either way, it looks just like the lavender color in chickens, haha
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HI BECKEY and BILL I took a look at the LAVANDER GAZZI MODENAS, it is a poorly marked gazzi. I believe that someone is working on a project to put lavander into MODENA it looks like maybe an F2 cross .GEORGE

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Just was wondering, is this bird really a slate? I recently purchased this bird and she is a really noce healthy bird. I don't really care about color just was wondering.
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Old 19th August 2009, 02:06 PM
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Well the image is gone so here is a pic I took of her. She is getting some exercise in the garage while in quarentine.
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Old 19th August 2009, 02:12 PM
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Very pretty bird And yep, she's a slate for sure. The effect on the bars looks neat.
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