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Old 23rd March 2009, 09:54 AM
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red cock x white hen, = all white?


was wondering about the white being domanant, is white considerd a dilute? and would the off spring be all white from this pair?
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was wondering about the white beign domanant, is white considerd a dilute? and would the off spring be all white from this pair?
Red is dominant. I don't KNOW about white, but I would make a wild guess and say you'll get reds from this pair. Could be a RED bird with a little bit of white or a white bird with a little bit of red or anything in between...........
I don't know why I answered.......LOL......someone who ACTUALLY knows what the heck they're talking about will let you know......
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Old 23rd March 2009, 11:13 AM
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Red is dominant. I don't KNOW about white, but I would make a wild guess and say you'll get reds from this pair. Could be a RED bird with a little bit of white or a white bird with a little bit of red or anything in between...........
I don't know why I answered.......LOL......someone who ACTUALLY knows what the heck they're talking about will let you know......
well it was nice of you to do so...lol..., I really like the red and wish to get more, I looked up colors on slobberknockers but white is not listed, unless white means dilute..., me so confused.
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well it was nice of you to do so...lol..., I really like the red and wish to get more, I looked up colors on slobberknockers but white is not listed, unless white means dilute..., me so confused.
White is actually not a "color"........as far as color genes go. (I think) It's a lack of color. (I think) My understanding is that all white birds are SOME color genetically, but lack of pigment in the feathers makes them appear white. (I think)
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I bet you a million dollars if you breed a white pigeon with a red pigeon you will get baby pigeons
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White is actually not a "color"........as far as color genes go. (I think) It's a lack of color. (I think) My understanding is that all white birds are SOME color genetically, but lack of pigment in the feathers makes them appear white. (I think)
I have read the same thing a couple of times while doing pigeon color research
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Red is dominant. I don't KNOW about white, but I would make a wild guess and say you'll get reds from this pair. Could be a RED bird with a little bit of white or a white bird with a little bit of red or anything in between...........
I don't know why I answered.......LOL......someone who ACTUALLY knows what the heck they're talking about will let you know......
Hi RENEE, YOU ARE CORRECT,also yes white is not a color.................SPIRT WTNGS white is not dilute. ...GEORGE
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I bet you a million dollars if you breed a white pigeon with a red pigeon you will get baby pigeons
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Hi RENEE, YOU ARE CORRECT,also yes white is not a color.................SPIRT WTNGS white is not dilute. ...GEORGE
Thank you Renee and George, and Ed, I guess.LOL.. perhaps I will have more red figs in the loft afterall, and Im glad I know now dilute is a color and white is not. o
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Thank you Renee and George, and Ed, I guess.LOL.. perhaps I will have more red figs in the loft afterall, and Im glad I know now dilute is a color and white is not. o
Dilute isn't a color either. It's a name for the way a color shows it's self.
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Dilute...
its what they do to my drinks at the bar sometimes
hahaha ok I will stop now
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Dilute isn't a color either. It's a name for the way a color shows it's self.
well crap, thought I had it down, dilute of a color....get it.
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its what they do to my drinks at the bar sometimes
hahaha ok I will stop now
Thats why I stick with beer...
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Dilute isn't a color, but it is a gene It's what causes reds to be yellow, brown to be khaki, and blue to be silver.

White isn't caused by the dilute gene; the only similarity being both white and dilute effects the thickness/length of down on the babies.

There's a lot of forms of white, and depending on what kinds of white the parent carries, the babies may have a lot or a little colored feathers. Chances are, you'll have at least a little red showing in the babies
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Figs are loaded with recessive whites


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was wondering about the white beign domanant, is white considerd a dilute? and would the off spring be all white from this pair?
My figs are loaded with recessive white. I have yet to find a pair that does not throw whites. This is the most likely reason for your white bird to be white. As others have said, underneath the white is a color. No way to know what it is without test breeding.

I have blues, blacks, ash reds, ash yellows, all of which have produced recessive white young. It takes both parents to either carry recessive white or to be recessive white to produce a recessive white as it is a simple recessive gene.

All that said, if the male is ash red and is not split for another color, all the young will be ash reds, even if they happen to be recessive whites. The color underneath will be ash red, it just won't show. Half the young in a mating such as this, should be normal colored and half should be recessive whites. The normals produced will also carry recessive white in their genes.

There are also a multitude of other reasons to produce white pigeons but in figs, recessive white is the number one reason.

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