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12th September 2009, 11:06 AM
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Study of EyesI never really paid much attention to eye color.
Sure, I knew that Frillies have orange eyes and Capuchines have pearl eyes... but other than that, I never really looked close. Lately I have found myself looking more at my bird's eyes. And today I noticed that two nestmates have very different eye colors. I decided to take a few pictures, and compare them to my other birds. This is when I discovered that I have two very distinct eye colors in my black Frillbacks.  My "foundation cock" has dark orange eyes, while his mate has brilliant pumpkin orange eyes. Their offspring are almost 50/50 dark and bright eyes! It just occurred to me that I should have noted which birds are cocks, and which are hens, to see if there is some sort of correlation? When I get back from work I will do that...Has anyone else documented or studied something like this? For now, here are a few pictures! http://w285.photobucket.com/pbwidget...e/d1acd7b7.pbw (Click to view larger, scroll over to pause slideshow.)
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13th September 2009, 06:02 AM
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I don't know the answer, but I'd be very interested in learning about eye colors.
I have many different eye colors in my loft. From light beige (almost white), all shades of red, and every color in between to solid black. I've noticed this for a long time but never really thought about it.
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13th September 2009, 09:44 AM
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I've noticed lots of different eye colors my birds have. Perserverence and his siter survivor have really orange colored eyes, especially perserverence. Warril has deep red, as well as mistew and his daughter birde. His mate Jojo has very light, whitish eyes, and both of their last group of squab inheritted it, along with El Hanso Loco (not as intensly though). I think Perserverence and Survivor got orange from rocko. Greenie seems to have very dull red eyes, squeakez's are brighter though. Avilas eyes are red-orange, and Mistewthe2nd also has red orange, a little more red than orange. His son, Mistewthe3rd, has bright orange, and since splotches is just a baby still he has brown-black.
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13th September 2009, 10:20 AM
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I don't know which eye colors and dominant and which are recessive. Hopefully some other genetics people will be along to tell us.
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13th September 2009, 10:28 AM
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Looking at the slideshow. So far all I've seen are pearl and yellow (orange) eyes
 Edit: I'm assuming since the ferals you see have yellow eyes typically, then it is dominant over pearl. So if the bird with yellow eyes is split for pearl, and the other bird of course would have to be homo. for pearl, then you'd get 50/50 in the offspring. How old is the bird with pearl eyes? Usually ones with dull pearl like that are still young, but then again it can take up to 2 years to get the eyes as bright and 'developed' as they are going to get, so I've heard. But I notice it has a tic beside its eye, so the pied gene could be what's keeping the color from really popping.
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13th September 2009, 10:49 AM
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The bird that is in heavy molt (and has the little white feathers - lol) is the nestmate of the bird that is in good feather with the bright orange eyes. So they are the same age. Their sire also has white feathers (this is a minor fault in black selfs), but his eyes are bright orange. Capuchines are supposed to have "pearl" eyes, which are almost white, so that is the only definition of pearl that I know. Both of the birds in the slideshow are Frillbacks.
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13th September 2009, 01:56 PM
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There are the pearl eyes your Capuchines have (which I call white eyes), then there are these pearl eyes
 The amount of colored pigment in pearl eyes can vary a lot. This is the bird I was referring to with the pearl eyes  Many of my birds have had very similar eyes until maturity, then they look more like the first picture, with more or less 'pearl' depending.
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6th October 2009, 01:12 AM
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That's a very interesting topic. But this field is still new to me. It will be grateful if you give me some
more information about it. Thanks in advance.
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16th October 2009, 02:24 AM
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There are lots of racers that cary the pearl eye (tr) gene, though the pearl is limited to the inner cicrle of the iris (as is the yellow for no pearl eyed racers).
The pearl is more visible in the tipplers and rollers because the whole iris has the colour showing, but this is caused by a modifier and not by the pearl eye gene alone.
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20th October 2009, 09:23 AM
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17th October 2009, 10:51 PM
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Some of the breeders here in my locality used to say that pigeons with white eyes can fly much higher than the other ones, second highest being the yellow eyed ones (or in oher words most of their pigeons who fly high from the land are mostly white colored and then yellow colored).
Dont know whether its fact or fiction, but have you guys noticed anything about this ? Just curious to know...
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20th October 2009, 03:04 PM
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The major exceptions are brown and almond squabs In these exceptions the eyes tend to be pink as the true pigmentation is delayed weeks longer................The wild type of coloration is orange-red which is dominant to pearl. therefor the mating of a orange-red to pearl will usually be orange-red. I say usually because where birds with white around the head tend to produce bull eyes. The squabs will carry the gene for pearl,and will produce some pearl eyes. Becky was correct when she said in an eariler post that she thought that orange-red was dominent over pearl. GEORGE  Last edited by george simon; 20th October 2009 at 03:14 PM.
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4th November 2009, 08:25 AM
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well as a iraqi breeder we dis like yellow or red eyes no offence to any birds with yellow or red eyes it just how were tought
we perfer pure whites to have black eyes or what we call glass eyes it with no red like pearl eyes just blue or white in other collors all forms of pearl eyes or green eyes and blue eyes are rare but ive seen em
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