3 week old Baby

[Jay3]

That's great! I'm so glad he is doing so well otherwise. I guess the stuff she used will stretch with him as he grows,but I would check his legs often anyway, for any circulation problems. Don't let it get too tight, as they grow very quickly at this age. And I think Pizon is cute actually. You did good. Now he will be able to grow up to be a normal little pijjie. Are you still planning on keeping the little guy?

[ceramicgirl]

so glad to hear from you again, yes, the vet & the tech were both pleased with his condition. the vet wrap and the support are supposed to be expandable, but she also said to watch it, plus I like to handle him daily so he'll be friendlier. and YES I will most definetly keep him/her. since I am donating the others to 4-H and I've already put $50 into this one, I will keep it, plus I wanted one or two youngs ones that I could keep and let fly . If we get a fly cage built like I want, otherwise, I'll lock up the dogs and cats once in a while and let it fly around the living room. may even start that with the parents too. in fact, I saw the picture of yours and that is what I was thinking of but thought I'd have to go all the way to the ground, I would use hardware cloth as I also have a canary in the bottom cage, BUT now that I know we can build it for just the top cage, I'd rather do that, as I don't know what the pigeons would do to the canary & cocketiel, plus the 2 doves with those two. we have to do something with that window this summer as in the winter it leaks cold, cold air. this house is over 120 yrs. old so not very air tight.

[Jay3]

Glad everything is going well. Please keep us updated on Pizon, won't you. And on the flight cage. Thanks.

[ceramicgirl]

I will keep you updated right now I can't keep him in the bowl, He jumps out of it. I just fixed it with a wash cloth instead of the towel. will see what I can do with him/her.

[Jay3]

Sounds like a lively little dickens. LOL. Think that one's gonna keep you on your toes.

[ceramicgirl]

Hello Jay3 wanted to give you an update on my Pizon with the splayed legs. at 4 wks old we took the last of the hobbles off, his/her toes are crooked, the back toe on each foot is curled under his feet. for one week it walked around the cage walking on the legs (your arm between wrist & elbow) this week it is 5 wks old. and STANDING up on it's feet. the back toe is still curled under the feet.
I was holding it last night, and looked at it's feet real close, I am afraid it will loose those 2 back toes, there is a dark line right at the crease where they are attached to the foot. and the toe itself is swollen. I've already put $100 into this bird, hoping to save it. it is eating, drinking and growing, still has the yellow fuss on the top of it's head instead of all feathers. it is balancing itself quite well without those toes. hubby told me maybe I should let nature take it course with the toes. I don't know,
I am leaving it with the parents right now, have noticed if they are still feeding it, they are making a new nest, after sitting on 2 wooden eggs for 16 days. no more babies right now until the 4-H leader let's me know if anyone wants them. I just took the sibling to Pizon out to them yesterday.
will try to post pics of Pizon, last time I could not get them to post.

[ceramicgirl]

an update on Pizon, at 3 wks old, and hobbles on for 1 wk. he went back to the vet today, and got the hobbles off, the thighs have come in nicely but the lower legs still spring out a little, enough so that Doc was afraid to leave the wrap off. so a new wrap put on, I just got home and he has the wrap off one leg, they are closing for the day, I have used some medical tape to hold it on for the night, and will take him in tomorrow a.m. to be re-wrapped. little dickens will not stay in the bowl, so I've let him out, but he is all over the 8ft. long cage. I've just put him back in the bowl. hope he stays there. they weighed him last friday at 104 what ever their little scalses are, and today he weighed in at 304 so he is gaining, and growing, in fact growing so much that I had to take him in on Wed. to get the wrap loosened, the vet wrap was getting too tight.
cann't find how to post the pic this time, will post one though
well, Pizon got out his wrap last night, took it in this a.m. this vet was not very encouraging about fixing the legs, and yet, the regular vet & I can see a difference in both legs already. will know more on the 1st. of May.

[Jay3]

Sometimes they tape the toes to straighten them out. Don't know if you can at this point. Hopefully someone with experience with this will come in and help. If you just let the toes go like that, it will interfere with his walking, and perching. Poor little bird certainly has his problems.

[Charis]

I think you need to take him back to the vet you regularily see and have him look at the toes.

[ceramicgirl]

I was thinking that too, hope they are not getting tired of me coming in so much. I'll call them tomorrow.

[ceramicgirl]

I talked to my vet yesterday, she had me soak his feet in warm water last night, and made an appointment for today, took him in, they were amazed at how much he has grown since April, and that he was standing up.

they took him into the back room and watched him walk around, etc. then they brought the back toes out to where they belong, and used pop cicle sticks under the feet to help hold the toes where they belong and taped them all up, he looks like he is walking on snow shoes, they watched him to make sure he could walk before they brought back to me. she also gave me some pain killer to give to him once a day for 7 days, He goes back next week to see if this works.

He is so cute plopping around in the cage, so far the parents have not tried to take it off. and they are still feeding him.

[Jay3]

Oh the poor baby. He does look like he has snowshoes on. I hope it helps. Did the vet mention whether or not he thought they would straighten out? We have had other pigeons on here with toes misaligned, and taping them seem to do the trick. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery for your precious baby as well. He certainly has been through a lot with those little legs and feet of his. I'm hoping they are much better when the vet sees him again. He needs those toes to walk well, and to perch. I'm so glad you got him to the vet. I know it isn't easy today with the price of everything. Just took our two dogs in for the annual checkup, and before that were treating sick birds. More vet bills. Not to mention the extra vet visits with the dogs during the year for other things.They're costing us more than children. At least that would be on the family plan. LOL. Please keep us updated. How are all the rest of the birds doing?

[Jay3]

Just happened to notice, in looking at the picture again. Watch him, that his boots don't get caught under the paper on the bottom of his cage. That would trip him up. Wouldn't want him hurting himself. He's getting to be a full time job, isn't he? LOL.

[ceramicgirl]

I saw that too, it is the grit paper for bird cages, makes it easier for him to walk. right now he is in the box that the parents used for a nest box. the parents are at the other end of the cage.

He sure has been thru alot, the parents are doing fine, the sibling to this batch was taken to the 4-H poultry leader Sat. I saw the other 2 birds there to, from the Dec. batch. they looked good.

my doves, cockitiel and canary are all doing fine.
all 11 horses are ok too, dogs, cats, etc. tell me about those vet bills.
we just had all 11 horses checked out rabies shots, 4 in 1 flue shots & 3 with coggins test,
we people with pets, fur or feather keep the vets in the money. :O)

[Jay3]

You have many animals. The vets must love you. LOL.