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Old 26th September 2009, 02:09 PM
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Is this avian pox?


A lady in Paris rescued a blind woody and is asking for my help.
Could this be avian pox on his eyes? I am not familiar with this illness , please help!
If so, how to treat?
Thank you, Myriam
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:13 PM
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it looks like tar...pox is lighter in color I do believe, does it weep or is it dry?
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:17 PM
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Thank you for your reponse.
I will ask, i am jumping from the french to the american forum
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:25 PM
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Hi Myriam

I agree, it doesn't look like pox, that would usually be on the eyelids.

Probably a good thing, as far as I know (and in my own experience) the woodpigeon pox virus (which appears to be different to the self limiting pigeon pox) is a fatal one.

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Old 26th September 2009, 02:51 PM
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Thank you Cynthia, what could be the problem in your opinion?
I think he was attacked and pecked by other birds, she found him in an ovecrowded and dirty pigeon rescue center wher she happened to volunteer and brought him home.
Or is it more likely an infection?
I told her to give some Baytril, to avoid infection, is this ok?
And an eye cream. Is there anything "natural" she can put on the eye? I remember my mom putting "camomille" (in French, English??? a yellow flower you can also make tea with) on my eyes when they were tired or red looking.
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:53 PM
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Could it be conjuntivitis?
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:54 PM
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colodial silver can be used....if Treesa was here perhaps she can give you more info on it..I have read post with good results using it.
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:58 PM
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I received bigger pics.
Looks like tar
Could it have burned the eyes?
What can she put to soften the pain????????
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May it be dry blood? She can use warm Chamomile tea and cotton bud to make compress and soften/remove whatever is on the eyelids.
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Old 26th September 2009, 03:24 PM
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Thank you Plamenh, I was also hesitating between dry blood and tar.
So chamomille is called the same in English
I asked this lady to register, don't know if she will do.
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she may need to use some baby oil if it is tar, which that is what it looks like...he may be blinded from it for life...just guessing. a member here had to get some really sticky stuff off a bird she had and forgot what she used...I hope she will chime in...forgot who exactly...sorry not much help Im I...
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he may be blinded from it for life...
That is is also my fear
Feral pigeons can have quality life when blind... but woodies? She will of course offer him a good home.
There are some more birds kept in inacceptable ways in the rescue center, I told her to take another bad case (woodie if possible) to get him used to the warmth of another living being next to him, to fight his solitude. Now that he is still young and receptive to companionship.
My blind feral Gana was given a companion when still very young, and it was love at first... touch. Later on I had to remove this male, he recovered so well from his injuries that he could not be kept confined with Gana anymore.
A few months later I wantet to give her another handicapped young one as a life companion, but she refused and did not stop pecking at him. Now she only wants me to pet and hold her.
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I agree that color is bit dark, but old blood crust can be pretty black and it looks that is coming out of eye sockets.
Chamomile will do the job at cleaning and calming sores and pain.
As Spirit Wings mentioned Colloidal Silver is good against infection. If possible Terracortril ointment can be used.
Woodie looks healthy otherwise and I can only hope that eyes are not permanently damaged.
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if it is dried blood it should come off fairly easy, if tar...not so easy...
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If it is tar, I would not touch it because you risking further tissue damage especially eye area. Vaseline can be used for removal from the skin.
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