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Posted 22nd June 2009, 07:38 AM
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Wood pigeon found on ground in U.K.


Rescued a wood pigeon this morning from the side of a busy road. It was moving itself with the use of it wings along the ground. On inspection it looks as though the fantail is all stuck together - matted up. It wasnt using its feet either just its wings to pull itself along. I havent wanted to inspect it any further as I would like it to have some peace and quiet in the box I've put it in.
A neighbour then told me she had heard a flapping noise at the back of her shed on Friday 19th June (Mon 22nd today) but thought nothing more of it. She went away and came back Sunday and could still hear the noise. When she investigated she found the little soul in a bucket on its side at the back of her shed. She released it, attempted to feed it and hoped for the best. I then found it a short distance away this morning.
Has anyone any ideas what could be wrong? When I phoned the vet they just said bring it in and we can put it to sleep. This is fair enough if the bird is suffering and I would not wish to prolong this in any way. But it just seems so fiesty. I would love to give it a fighting chance. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Thank you


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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:00 AM
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Hi Josie,

Thank you for your compassion. What it needs first is quiet, warmth and rehydration (don't attempt to feed or wash it yet).

Wrap a hot water bottle in a towel and let it rest on that. Mix 1 pint warm water with 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1/2 tablespoon of glucose, or honey, or sugar. Place that in a shallow dish and guide its beak to the solution, dip the beak in the solution but avoid covering its nostrils.

Is it an adult (with the white neck band?)

Have a read of this thread: http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showth...referrerid=560. The pigeon that Maria rescued is with me in an aviary and is able to walk. Although it can't fly it is happy and has another disabled wood pigeon for company.

Can you let us know where you are? There may be someone that can help.

Be careful about handing it over to a sanctuary. many of them believe that wood pigeons can't adapt to captivity and euthanase. I think that taralotti's thread shows that they can adapt very well when treated with gentleness and compassion.

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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:10 AM
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Thank you for your prompt reply. Yes it has the white collar so must be adult - fairly robust in size. Still sitting quietly in the box. I shall do as you suggested. I am living in the U.K. on the border of 3 counties:- Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire and Cambridgeshire. I am also 30 miles from London - so fairly accessible. Once again thank you for you care and for being there - I knew someone else must have compassion out there - my neighbours all said bang it on the head. I love all creatures and as such believe they all deserve a chance.
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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:17 AM
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I'm not too far away, I live in Norfolk. I can't have pigeons in the house because I have pigeon lung disease, but we have a sanctuary that might nurse it and hand it back to me if it is unreleasable.

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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:22 AM
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Don't do anything just yet. Let me call one of our UK members to help you.
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Check out this list... You are in the UK...right?

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/group.php?groupid=21
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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:39 AM
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Good. Keep us posted.
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Posted 22nd June 2009, 08:41 AM
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Thank you. Also receiving some advise from Charis. I tryed your idea of the honey/salt solution but the bird became agitated so I left it alone. I have contacted the Bedford Wildlife Sanctory and they have given me a number for Stevenage which is nearer for me. However your kind suggestion may still be taken up if I have no joy nearer.
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Let us know how you get along. And please assure whoever you take it to that it has a home here if it is unreleasable. I can always meet you half way.

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Posted 22nd June 2009, 09:35 AM
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Just got off the phone and have been assured that from the symptoms I described this pigeon will not recover. The signs this pigeon showed of "rowing" along the ground have been seen before and from their experience with this the pigeon, even after weeks of rehabilitation cannot fly again. I have now to take it to the vet for euthanasia to aliviate any further suffering. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all your kindness, help and advise. Thank goodness there are still people who care for the creatures on this earth.
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Posted 22nd June 2009, 10:50 AM
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Please reconsider! I had 2 woodies that could not fly, one given to me by my vet and one by a wildlife centre. They paired up, built a nest and layed eggs in my aviary..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS8ZV8zPZI4

Just think how hard that pigeon has struggled to stay alive...

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josie...You NEED to trust Cynthia and give the bird a chance. I hope you reconsider because PTS may be needless and it's so very final.
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Posted 22nd June 2009, 12:19 PM
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Sadly it wasnt really a case of me reconsidering as it wasnt ever about me it was about the pigeon. I spoke to the lady at the rescue centre for over an hour regarding the pigeon and she absolutely 100% assured me it would be kinder to pts due to its symptoms.
I am a vegetarian, a complete animal lover, protector and advocate for All life being equal - I never consciously take ANY living creatures life - no matter how small or despised by others. As a human being I feel we have the responsibility to take care of other living beings. To never intentionally harm another and certainly never take a life - the only exception being if to prolong a life would cause unnecessary pain and suffering for no end or quality of life. The lady I spoke to today gave me absolutely no reason to believe she was any different.
I have been to the vet and she is known to me personally so I asked her to let me know if after examination there was ANY chance at all for the bird she could ring and let me know because I knew a place it could go to convalesce.
This was at 6.30pm and so far I havent had a call so can only assume the little one is now at peace.
It is very hard for me because I never know when to let go but sometimes all I have is a trust in the Universe to guide me towards what is right for the other and not for me.
Once again thank you so very much for all your guidance and hope. It really helped to have some support through a very difficult experience.
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Your are right...it was about the Pigeon. Please remember this advise for next time...vets and rehabs often don't give injured/sick animals a chance and so they tell folks...this creature has no future ...when they've never actually tried. It's the same with PMV...vets will say...they won't recover...when WE know that absolutely is not a true thing to say! Birds with PMV can recover to have a happy life. "They"...the vets and "some rehabbers" have never given a PMV bird the chance.
The PMV is merely an example of the thought I'm trying to get across.
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Posted 23rd June 2009, 02:02 AM
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I will remember the advise - thank you. On this occasion though, rest assured, the lady at the Wild life rescue centre (gratefully found via this forum), assured me she had seen this type of injury many, many times before and even if kept in captivity or shelter still did not live a quality of life due to the many complications deriving from the initial damage. When question she kindly told me of several instances where this had been the case.
Not wanting to accept or dismiss anything I had read or heard during the day, with an open mind, I then took the pigeon to the vet with strict instructions to cure (whatever cost) if she believed any chance remained.
I really appreciate all that you have told me and should this unfortunate injury ever present itself again on another pigeon I will of course, as always, take everything into account.
Once again thank you for being there at this traumatic time. It is always comforting to know their are others in the world who care.
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