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Old 3rd October 2008, 01:46 PM
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Hi Janet,

Poly Aid is best, a little goes a lot further. Mix it as per instructions and then add as little water as possible to dilute it enough to go down.

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Old 3rd October 2008, 02:11 PM
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Thanks for your help.

Can you just confirm it's ok to give the Spartrix daily until it hopefully clears the canker?

Sorry about all the questions, desperately want to get this one through this.

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Old 3rd October 2008, 02:51 PM
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Hi Janet,

Give one a day for 5 days...if it hasn't worked by then you will need to try something else. I will send you a sachet of Chevi col tomorrow...once again that is something that is designed for flock treatment so we will have to work out dilution and dosage.

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Old 5th October 2008, 02:17 PM
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Hi,
At last, tonight is the first time I've seen a slight break through with the canker. There is still a large amount in the throat but a couple of small pieces came away when I was giving him some Polyaid. the one under his tongue came out.

I never thought to ask, and I can't find any info on the net, but what does actually happen to the canker?
I know I mustn't dislodge it as it might cause a bleed. Do I wait for it to come away or should I be doing anything to help it along now it's loosening up?
I was worried in case he swallowed it.

The Polyaid is going down him and he is looking brighter. He's beginning to nuzzle my hand and nibble the syringe, and if I hold a piece of paper towel, soaked in water at the end of his beak, he's taking water from that.

Rachel texted me on Saturday to say her friend had seen another sick bird. I haven't heard back from her, so I hope they are able to catch that one too.

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Old 5th October 2008, 02:20 PM
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Hi Janet,

After a three or four days treatment the nodules localise and detach themselves. They can be eased off at that stage with a cotton bud, but I prefer to let them go in their own time...just in case!

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Old 5th October 2008, 02:33 PM
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Ok, I'll see what tomorrow brings.
I'll give him another Spartrix in the morning.

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Old 6th October 2008, 05:57 AM
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Hi,

Some more canker came away this morning but unfortunately the largest chunk is right down in his neck so I can't really help get it out. I've given him another Spartrix and hope this will dislodge on it's own.
I suppose the only way is down.
I haven't seen him attempt to eat by himself yet so am keeping the Polyaid going.
His poops are tarry dark green and very yellow urates but he seems very perky.

Should I leave off the Spartrix now?

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Old 6th October 2008, 06:22 AM
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Hi Janet,

Yes, he should be OK now. Green slimy poops and yellow urates can be a sign of liver disease, there is always the worry that the canker could have got into the liver. But we have to hope for the best, and I have had worse symptoms imrove with TLC and probiotics. If he has been on Poly Aid then that us a low residue food, so perhaps the poops are being coloured with bile.

My Little Angel came to me with profuse green slimy poops , as poisoning was a possibility I gave her activated caharcoal and she regurgitated a rotten peanut and some other unrecognisable debris. Jayne has also been giving a pigeon with green slimy poops and a rock hard crop some activated charcoal and spartrix and that has also regurgitated a cropful of old seed and is looking better for it.

What I am thinking is that the canker could have prevented some food going from the crop to the proventriculus and through the digestive system and tthe food could have soured in the crop , leading to a build up of bacteria and maybe the activated charcoal helped get rid of this. At the moment that is just a theory, but we have a little bottle of Old Hand's Sour Crop remedy and the contents look very much like activated charcoal...

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Old 8th October 2008, 07:22 AM
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Hi,

Just wanted to check if I should be medicating still as he has got a very stubborn piece of canker right down in his throat.

I managed to tease out a large lump, about the size of a twenty pence piece yesterday, and this looks about the same size. If I massage his throat I can get it slightly higher so that I can get at it with a cotton bud, but it is quite firmly stuck, so I've left it well alone.

He was drinking by himself a lot yesterday but when I picked him up to clean his cage, he threw up a whole load of water. So I don't quite know how much is still further down his throat. He seems very bright though and keen to get out of the cage now.

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Old 8th October 2008, 07:26 AM
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Hi Janet,

I have had pigeons that took 10 days for the final nodule to disappear.

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