Buying Pigeons?

[jang786]

Okay so I'm going to buy 2 pairs from some guy and he said to send me money order.. I just wanted to know if i do send him money through money order will I be safe? how do you guys send your money when you buy pigeons?

[LUCKYT]

I do not Buy Birds on line, But i would not send a Money order, if he Does not ship, you have Little Recourse. Dave

[jang786]

Originally Posted by LUCKYT

I do not Buy Birds on line, But i would not send a Money order, if he Does not ship, you have Little Recourse. Dave

is there any other way to send money securely?

[Keith C.]

I sell a lot of pigeons and the only way I take payment, when shipping, is a USPS money order from the post office.
In my experience other money orders are often fake.
USPS money oders have a metallic strip and a hologram and are checked against a list of lost and stolen money orders when I use them to ship the birds at the post office.
I suggest sending a USPS money order with delivery confimation, so the reciever has to sign to get it, that way you have a strong case for mail fraud if they don't deliver.
Also do your research on the seller. If they have been selling pigeons for a long time you should be able to find some feedback from other customers.
Keith

[jang786]

yea I gotta call from some other seller that I contacted last week and he said that he is willing to the give the birds for free as long as i pay for the boxes and shipping and one question where do i get a box for 10 birds and how much does it cost for shipping from new york to california (10 birds)?

I found him on this site.

[Spin City USA]

Say jang, how are you doing? Is it possible to get local birds that you can see fly? If not, you can go on line and find them under [shipping boxs/pigeons] and have them ship it directly to NY and then you send the shipper the postage. You can go to the post office and they can tell you approx. cost for shipping 10 birds 10 to 15 lbs. with the box.

[Keith C.]

Jang, you can purchase the boxes at:
http://www.hm-e.net/Bird%20NEST%20co...chart_2009.htm
The post office calculator is at:
http://postcalc.usps.gov/
To give you a rough idea for weight, homing pigeons are roughly 1 pound each, rollers are a little less than a pound.
The post office rounds all weights up.
Dont't forget to add the weight of the box you get.
Keith

[jang786]

Originally Posted by Spin City USA

Say jang, how are you doing? Is it possible to get local birds that you can see fly? If not, you can go on line and find them under [shipping boxs/pigeons] and have them ship it directly to NY and then you send the shipper the postage. You can go to the post office and they can tell you approx. cost for shipping 10 birds 10 to 15 lbs. with the box.

I'm doing good, what about you? If only I could find someone..

[jang786]

Originally Posted by Keith C.

Jang, you can purchase the boxes at:
http://www.hm-e.net/Bird%20NEST%20co...chart_2009.htm
The post office calculator is at:
http://postcalc.usps.gov/
To give you a rough idea for weight, homing pigeons are roughly 1 pound each, rollers are a little less than a pound.
The post office rounds all weights up.
Dont't forget to add the weight of the box you get.
Keith

Thank you for your help

[george simon]

Originally Posted by jang786

yea I gotta call from some other seller that I contacted last week and he said that he is willing to the give the birds for free as long as i pay for the boxes and shipping and one question where do i get a box for 10 birds and how much does it cost for shipping from new york to california (10 birds)?

I found him on this site.

The box cost between 25 and 35 dollars. the shipping will be much more about 40-50 dollars. Now let me ask you what kind of birds are you looking for there are people here in California that may have the type birds that you are looking for.You can buy the box thru one of the pigeon supply houses so they would ship it directly to the guy in NEW YORK that is going send the birds you will also have a shipping charge that will add to the cost. GEORGE

[LUCKYT]

Plus, if you buy from someone George recommends, it must be some one with a good Rep. Dave

[Ivor]

You should check the adoption forum, we have many members here in the SF Bay Area, are so many pigeons needing a home, what type of birds are you looking for? Do you have pics of your loft? Are you interested in King pigeons? check the adoption forum, and you will find many options there, we have a member here her name is Elizabeth and she rescue pigeons this is her website www.rescuereport.org they are big and beatiful white pigeons, but not good flyers, give us some description about what you want, and I'm sure you will find many members that can help you with a low cost or even free here in California no shipping fee.

Ivette

[jang786]

I'm looking for iranian high flyers..

[jang786]

Originally Posted by Keith C.

Jang, you can purchase the boxes at:
http://www.hm-e.net/Bird%20NEST%20co...chart_2009.htm
The post office calculator is at:
http://postcalc.usps.gov/
To give you a rough idea for weight, homing pigeons are roughly 1 pound each, rollers are a little less than a pound.
The post office rounds all weights up.
Dont't forget to add the weight of the box you get.
Keith

Keith C, I called the number on the website you provided and they said that i have to pay $50 for the box/shipping and they will ship it to the guy.. is that the normal price?

[Keith C.]

Jang, that sounds about right. Unfortunately Horizon only has one competitor, that I know of, so they have a virtual monoply on the box business.
I looked at their competitors boxes and they were smaller and cost more than Horizon's.
I would love to see some competition develop because the boxes seem way overpriced, for their quality and the slow service Horizon supplies.
It is such a niche market that it unlikely that any reasonably priced competition will develop.
Keith