DON'T SHOOT OUR BIRDS OF PREY

[turkey]

JGregg,

It's good to see intelligent postings. Welcome to pigeons.com )

Julie

[bigbird]

Yes, JGreg, it is nice having your input here.
Regards,
Carl

[cyro51]

Thanks for the info. We seem to know of so many places that kill pigeons for being "vermin" or "non native species" that we hoard any info on places that will care for them!

Cynthia

[PigeonSitter10]

yup u should never kill our birds of prey.u might be killing the father of a baby.how would u like irt if 1 of your parents were shot for eating a chicken?yup u woul feel terrible.so would the chicks.

[Webby]

My nieghbors put 40 Pigeons in a small coupe. They can afford to lose ten or 20 pigeons.

[pdpbison]

Hi screamingeagle,


A pellet gun or a bb gun is not a good idea...

The whole idea of 'scareing them off' is not valid, and all it does is injure them to get infections or die later with them having no idea that someone trying to 'scare them off'.

If you get shot say, not knowing from where or whom it came or even what it is, while in your own back yard or home, just remember, maybe someone was just trying to scare you off of some abstract thing you did not even know you were doing.

Anyone or their pappy, who shoots any kind of Birds with anything will not find favor with me.



Phil
el ve

[pdpbison]

Hi tomcassOO, all...


Thing is, some Pigeons are more aware or observant than others, some are faster fliers than others...some posess ( all Ferals in my experience) maneuvers of rolling or tumbleing or evasive bursts of novel kind one way or another.

I used to see some of mine do roller or tumbler maneuvers just for fun, but I knew as well they would do so in earnest...as well as all the Babys I ever raised were VERY interested and aware of even the tiniest 'dot' up in the Sky above them.

I think we can rest assured, that some Pigeons are better disposed to evade the tactics or eventualities of Birds of prey, than are others.

If one is worried about this, I expect the matter will resolve well enough by noteing those Birds which do not become prey, are maybe those Birds who posess the requisite , circumspect and abilities of maneuvers well timed, to not be eaten.

Let these birds breed, and one may have as much of a Prey-proof flock as is possible.

If one does not accept that Birds of Prey can or may claim one's occasional Pigeon, maybe one should not assume responsibilities to Pigeons which require killing other Birds to favor one's own maybe none too bright ones....which would be merely bad eugenics and imposition for one's naive vanity of "keeping" them.

I am reminded of an old joke -

Old woman has two Chickens...

One is healthy, one is sickly.

So, she kills the healthy one to make Soup, for the sickly one.



Phil
Las Vegas

[re lee]

Hawks that move in here during the off season. When they migrate. Are a problem at that time. They are in no way feeding young at that time. But an extra amount of hawks in a smaller hunting area occurs. Where during there breeding season. They move on to there breeding grounds. That have a food supply and the hawks are thinned out during this time season. So its say catch 22. You have a time period now days that has more hawk population per area For say about 5 6 months out of the year. Showing also that thru protection over a long period. They have repopulated to a point They now can be considered a problem certion times of the year. With no real answer to what can be done. Other then keep birds in during the high hawk season. Or be sure to smart train the birds. Loft flight when on the loft or board and not trapping fast. They are easy prey. And I think more birds are taken at this time rathere then when they are up in the air. Because they are easy targets. So flying them hungry teaching them to trap when the land will help reduce the losses. And as a few more years go by. The hawk problem will more then likely increase. Its becoming a hazard of the sport of flying now. And People who keep flyers and some that keep poulrty Are the ones that get hit. Others will probably Never notice the hawks at all. Rathere then seeing them form time till time. And I think thru over grazing pesticides. Land use for the suburbs. We have reduced the feeding grounds the natural prey and such TO where that hawks now take the city and town hunts in for food needs.

[newbie]

I have lost several birds to hawks within the last few months and although it sickens me. I would not consider shooting the hawks either. First of all it is illegal in most states and perhaps it is my own ignorance that lead to my birds demise. I love to watch my birds fly and I sit on my deck and watch them often. Maybe I should not be letting them out until they can hide in the leaves of the trees.

If I do continue with pigeons, I will have a flight pen for them that is protected. This cycle of life happening right before my eyes has me reconsidering keeping pigeons that are hawk feed right now. And now with the loss of my oldest and favorite hen, Star, I am really questioning what I am doing??

CR

[PigeonSitter10]

well i did post up a post called hawk scaring technique.flying a kite.DO NOT HIT IT WITH THE STRING OR KITE this will severely injure it.draw something nasty to a hawk on it and it will run off.or bite and destroy the kite

[pdpbison]

Hi re lee,


You remind me that the Bird of Prey concern is also somewhat different in different areas of the Country, and, in different Seasons for any area. Good points to bear in mind.

I was being a little complaiscent, since in my area their presence never seemed very common or Seasonal. One sees various Falcons or Hawks now and then, many of whom are themselves too small to try and take an adult Pigeon.

Phil
Las Vegas