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2nd March 2006, 05:20 PM
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Egg Binding? How can I tell?Hi all...!
Run me through the 'how-to' for feeling a Hen's abdomen for signs of Egg Binding? And or any other signs to look for or test for? My PPMV survival gal has been sitting for many weeks now, her and her mate 'Big Daddy' have made their own Nest as well as that they occupy B-D's old Nest from his Babys by a different Hen of Jan'y...they both sit long periods, together or singly, and no Eggs, and, I just want to feel assured she is not Egg Bound in some way...she is a large frame Hen... Let me know your wisdoms on this please? Thank you! Phil Las Vegas 
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2nd March 2006, 05:46 PM
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Hi Phil,
I'm not sure about how to feel for an egg in the abdomen but a hen will sit with her rump feathers hunched up ...the lobster tail look when she's egg bound. Another thing to look for is the cloaca contracting over and over as I'm sure this is the muscles trying to push the egg out. They will sit a lot, not moving much and kinda look sick. I don't know if this helps or if you already knew this or not but I hope it helps.
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2nd March 2006, 06:52 PM
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There should be a hard mass felt in the abdominal region (which is quite small on a bird) near the vent besides any symptoms of distress. You should be able to move it around some as well. It's really pretty easy to feel both the male and the female for comparison.
Pidgey
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2nd March 2006, 07:19 PM
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Hi Phil,
I keep Calcium Gluconate on hand just on GP, as you know, w/the hens, there doesn't need to be a mate for them to produce the eggs. I have 3 such hens. There is a great description by Motherlodes Loft in one of the older threads about what he did to help one of his hens w/an egg binding problem. I know he was at odds w/the 'tree-hugger' types, but I do miss his input. fp
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#5
2nd March 2006, 09:44 PM
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Hi Brad, PIdgey, fp,
Thank you... Well, her abdomen is of course wider than that of her mate Big Daddy who I checked for comparison... No dialating or movement detectable of her Vent... No central prominance or interior orb or anything I can feel. Center of her abdomen is recessed slightly and is softer, compared to the surrounding area the center is located in - as is so with B-D in his way... Hmmmmmm...well, prolly no eggs up the spout, or none hanging up anyway. She really wants TO have Eggs and make Babys it seems! Her and B-D both... I have just hoped nothing was hanging up in there...they have spent so much time Nesting and all... Thank you for your input! I would be glad if they did get some Eggs to happen, I think it would be very satisfying for them...and I know B-D is a fine pooppa... Phil Las Vegas
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2nd March 2006, 09:47 PM
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Hi Phil
I have two hens that never lay even though they sit on nests. One is a PMV recovery the other had an infected oviduct. Another of my PMV recoveries rarely lays her own eggs now. She seems content to share her mate's "wife # 2 eggs). As Brad mentioned an egg bound pigeon would show signs of pain (the description lobster tail is so accurate!) and distress. Mary rescued an egg bound pigeon. By the time it came to her attention it was so ill it was being attacked by other pigeons and convulsing. One of the very first things that she mentioned was that its vent was clenching and unclenching. Cynthia
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#7
3rd March 2006, 12:07 AM
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Hi Cynthia,
Well, thank gooness I have seen no 'Lobster Tail' back going on with her. But my gosh, I do not wish to embarass her to say this, even in confidence, but, those 'off the Nest' calling-cards are really quite something..! ...sigh... I wonder what the percentage is, of PPMV survivor Hens who wish to lay, but for some reason do not, or can not? Or if there is a higher incidence of barren Hens from the illness having effected something? She is such a gentle sweet Bird...feminine, bright eyed, sociable in her own slightly shy way. Everyone here ( even me! - just kidding) gets the Oyster Shell Grit, so, she should not be lacking in Calcium... Phil Las Vegas
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#8
3rd March 2006, 04:08 PM
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#9
3rd March 2006, 04:12 PM
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We have a 2000 banded hen that quit laying this year. I've had her since she was a squeaker, had to take her home in a paper grocery bag, anyway, after putting her with her mate and she didn't lay, I gave her two dummy eggs when all the other pairs laid their second round and she and her mate sat on them just fine and then on "hatch day" I gave her one of the other hens real egg and they raised that baby just fine.
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