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Posted 11th March 2005, 10:55 AM
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Hawk Enemy


http://www.albertaclassic.com/hawks/hawks.php

owls can protect the pigeons in one way... they hunt hawks and kill pigeons ..but only at night so then you dont have to worry about night time since they are all in the loft

Read this:
http://www.albertaclassic.com/hawks/hawks.php


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Posted 11th March 2005, 08:10 PM
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Eagle Hawk


We've heard a great horned owl on our evening walk several times recently, but it's probably too far away from home to directly help. However, we do have several vigilant groups of crows in the area and they are very effective!

If a bald eagle or red tailed hawk is nearby, the crow maintain a steady presence. However, if a sharp-shinned or cooper's hawk is around, the crows go into overdrive!!!
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Posted 12th March 2005, 08:27 AM
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I was wondering if i could buy a pair of crows and raise them here, or do they not sell them?. Becasue they have so minimium enemies and they could be realesed with less fear of them getting killed. But then crows do not home and when they make babies i think they leave. But i think the crows stay in the same nest or just a little bit further from the original nest that right?
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Posted 12th March 2005, 08:30 AM
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I've seen my bird get attacked by a family of magpies and a crow come i wasnt sure what he was doing but they left when he and his mate arrived. i also heard that the crow is the smartest bird in the world.
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Posted 12th March 2005, 10:24 PM
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Hi Elvis,

Crows are a protected species of bird both in Canada and the U.S. .. you can't legally have them as pets. You can, however, purchase "exotic" crows from breeders. If you are seriously interested, post back, and I'll see if I can find you some folks to help you out.

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Posted 12th March 2005, 11:52 PM
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Hi Elvis,

Just to echo Terry's words, Crows (corvids) are illegal birds to keep in Canada and the USA. They are very different from pigeons in their needs and requirements. Yes, you are right that they are amoung the most intelligent avians (birds) but with intelligence comes massive committment. I admire your love and interest in birds and animals but think about what you are capable of handling right now
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Posted 13th March 2005, 08:49 AM
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Yep!


Yeah, i see that..and i wouldnt get into crows just yet. Only thing that i know about them is that they scavenge and scream a lot. I would still love to learn more about them. And i know most of dont know much about crows. I really dont want to get a completely new species of birds. but i got a question.
2 days ago i noticed about 120 metres away from my house is 2 big coniferous trees and i notice 2 crows every time i look out the window. Do you think they're close enough to scare off the hawks, or even so do you think they live there now? i also was thinking of getting a decoy. One question...this local pigeon fancier actually shoots hawks that come to his farm. Is this activity legal? I heard from someone that in canada if a hawk is indangering your livestock you have the right to shoot. When i was there he had so many hawks...some of the hawks were HUGE!

Elvis
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Posted 13th March 2005, 06:05 PM
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I am not sure about Canadian law, but in the US, it is illegal to kill any protected species of bird. All birds except pigeons, house sparrows and starlings are protected. You must obtain a permit from the US Fish and Wildlife Service to kill birds that are killing livestock.

There are two very good books on crows and their close relative the raven. "Mind of the Raven" by Bernd Heinrich and "The American Crow and the Common Raven" by Kilham, Texas A&M. They are very interesting birds.

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2 days ago i noticed about 120 metres away from my house is 2 big coniferous trees and i notice 2 crows every time i look out the window. Do you think they're close enough to scare off the hawks, or even so do you think they live there now? i also was thinking of getting a decoy. One question...this local pigeon fancier actually shoots hawks that come to his farm. Is this activity legal? I heard from someone that in canada if a hawk is indangering your livestock you have the right to shoot. When i was there he had so many hawks...some of the hawks were HUGE!


Elvis

Hi Elvis,

Yes it is possible that those crows have set up house in that large tree. Tall coniferous trees are a crow's idea of a perfect family condo. This is also the time of year when pairs are actively seeking nesting spots because egg laying will begin very soon. If the crows have decided to build a nest in that tree, they will protect a very large territory around it.

As for that fancier you mentioned, I suspect he's shooting hawks figuring he won't get caught. It is also illegal in Canada to shoot any raptors. It doesn't matter that they are interfering with his birds, they are a protected species. This is the wrong way for a person to deal with the situation and he's lucky he hasn't been caught yet.
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Around this part of the country. Crows prefure a cedar tree to help conceal there nest site. And when leaveing te nest they fly out low to the ground aways as not to be seen then up Kinda smart that way. But crows do chase hawks off. depending on local they prefure to nest hidden and away from near by homes. Most hawks move on to nest and hunt in the warmer weather.
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SO if hawks do come i dont have to worry at all?
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SO if hawks do come i dont have to worry at all?

You can never put all your eggs in one basket, nothing is for sure. Having crows nearby will help keep the hawks away though.
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How to attract crows?
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I have a lot of crows in my neighborhood. How do you attract them. I saw them the other day trying to steal food from a hawk. The hawk was trying to go away but it let go of its food. It was a poor small rabbit. Crows ate them though.
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Look at what I found.
http://www.birdfarm.com/sale/pied-crows-for-sale.asp

Isn't that kind of expensive for a crow?
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