Help please, Squab death

[007david]

With out an MD prescribing amoxicillin how can I purchase some? Is there an Over The Counter amoxicillin at the Co-Op?

Thanks, David

[eric98223]

you can get antibiotics for poultry over the counter at our local feed store or foys or global
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[007david]

I will be getting to the Co-Op tomorrow Eric. Thanks. Here is a photo of some (i believe) healthy birds.

[eric98223]

birds that have cocci look cold all the time to me. they fluff their feathers up also even if you just have one adult with it the poops look like water. speaking of water what do you have for waterers? are they shaped so that the sick birds can not poop in it? very impotant because they spread it around easily.
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[CHRISTIN RN]

you are very welcome Christin but i buy acv by the gallon at the local grocery outlet. it is very cheap 3.75 a gallon so i dont worry if they dont drink all the water. i change all 3 waterers every day because i like fresh water to drink figure they will tooE..[/quote]


Thanks again, Eric! I bought a small bottle that cost 3.79!
Glad you let me in on the gallon size...I'll pick up a few from the grocery store tomorrow!


David, Thanks for the update and pics. I'm really praying for this to resolve. Seems like your doing everything possible. Keep the Faith!

[DEEJAY7950]

007 please re-check your loft, look for any signs of pigeon flies, then check all your nests, take them apart even if they look dry, check the bottom of nest you are looking for any moisture from droppings if you find some discard the nest! I believe you are having a re-current cocci problem! Your mature bird I bet has been showing signs of lameness, if not good, it hasn't gotten acute yet most mature birds get immune to some degree to it but then shows up in the youngsters at about the two week stage, so i would get some "cocci pills" for individual treatment! Keep a close eye on that bird, increased thirst, losing weight (going light), if possible isolate that bird and begin treatment
This is one of many good tablets! Please let us know how things work out!

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COXIMED 100 tabs (Medpet)
ENGLISH : Coximed 100 tablets
Product presentation:
For the prevention and treatment of Coccidiosis in pigeons. For pigeon use only.

COMPOSITION (each tablet contains):
- Diclazuril 5 mg

DIRECTIONS FOR USE (use only as directed):
- Racing Pigeons: Dose one tablet per pigeon once a month during the racing season.
- Breeding Pigeons: Dose one tablet per pigeon once a month during the breeding season.
- Young Pigeons: Dose all young pigeons with one tablet the day after weaning.
- Sick Pigeons: Dose all sick pigeons with one tablet, and treatment after 10 days.

WARNINGS: Keep out of reach of children and uninformed persons. Do not slaughter pigeons for human consumption within 10 days of last treatment. Although this remedy has been tested under a large variety of conditions, failure therefore may ensue as a result of a wide range of reasons. If this is suspected, seek veterinary advice and notify the distributor.

STORAGE:
- Store in a cool, dry place
- Keep container tightly closed

PRESENTATION: 100 tablets

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[re lee]

The coop will have terimycin . And other antibiotics. BUT let the sulmet treat first. USE it for 1 week Well 5 days. It will work on cocsiddious, salemnela, And ecoli. If you have a bird limping. dO you have any birds with wing boils. BUMPS on the wing. IF so YOU have salemenla. . Now after you treat with the sulmet. Wait 1 week. Then you might use antibiotics. BUT if the birds are seeming better. Then Just get sompoulttry vitimans at the coop And treat them for 3 days mixes in the water. Also see if the coop has or can get mineral grit Red mineral grit is good And the young birds need grit as well as the adult birds. HELPS digest the grain. Have you noticed many or any mice near and around the loft. AND as I said I will off you some replacement whites To get you going agin. Do you want them? Where around tahlequah do you live In town or ? Used to work for the nation When I lived there.

[007david]

Re Lee, thank you, for that medication information. that will be my next step if needed

This morning. 4/4 everything looks great. I used the sulmet in the H20 for two days, Tues and Wed. The day on Tuesday the adult bird seemed to be ill, (quite ill ) almost lame. I put a photo here in a prevous post. was squatting, not flying well etc.... On Wed. I could not tell which bird it was. As all of these birds look the same to me.

The squabs also were more active.

Today, Friday AM everything looks really good again(for now). I am hopeful the sulmet was the answer.

I was ask by a poster not to let any other eggs hatch! I understand the concern. My problem is - If no eggs hatch, I have no idea if the problem has been solved?

More later - You have all been a great source of knowlege and I am thankful. More later as things progress.

David

[007david]

I am sorry, Thank you DEEJAY for the med info.

re lee, I live on the East side of Tahlequah. I hope my problem is taken care of. Even so, I am happy to get additional birds. I like the idea of new blood in the flock. Currently ( and I need to keep it ) all are solid white homers. I would even buy some if you had some for sale, just to get new blood.

Thanks, David

[CHRISTIN RN]

YIPEE! Still praying for continued progess! It's worth all the work and worry to see everyone feeling better and back to normal!!!
Look forward to a nice photo spread of all the happy and healthy birdies soon! Blessings to the little hatchlings as well!
Will keep checking for more good news! AMEN!

[007david]

Christin. thank you but unfurtunately now at 1:00, 4/4, I checked on the little guys and found the smaller of the two was not living.

sorry for this inforamtion.

In a recent post it was thought there might be a problem with coccidiosis. the label on the Sulmet says it is for this treatment. It says an oz / gal of H2O for two days then reduce to 1/2 oz per gal for 4 days.

I have used sulmet for the past three days.


Thanks, David

[re lee]

Originally Posted by 007david

I am sorry, Thank you DEEJAY for the med info.

re lee, I live on the East side of Tahlequah. I hope my problem is taken care of. Even so, I am happy to get additional birds. I like the idea of new blood in the flock. Currently ( and I need to keep it ) all are solid white homers. I would even buy some if you had some for sale, just to get new blood.

Thanks, David

How far from the river. Here its up pretty good From the big rains. I said I would GIVE you some birds They will be white And they will be young birds. Will say 10 birds be enough. I will raise them Have several pair on eegs now and was getting ready to cut off the pairs. So I will go this round for you to get you some extra birds. DO you band your birds I would suggest you do that helps knowing the birds and helps when they get lost. PLUS good for records.

[007david]

Originally Posted by re lee

How far from the river. Here its up pretty good From the big rains. I said I would GIVE you some birds They will be white And they will be young birds. Will say 10 birds be enough. I will raise them Have several pair on eegs now and was getting ready to cut off the pairs. So I will go this round for you to get you some extra birds. DO you band your birds I would suggest you do that helps knowing the birds and helps when they get lost. PLUS good for records.

I Keep the birds at Green Country Funeral Home, on the by-pass in Tahlequah. Thank you for your offer. I can pick them up from your if the distance is reasonable. Or however else we can arrange the transfer. 10 birds are plenty. Much apprecition.

[Trees Gray]

I'm glad to hear the birds are doing better, that is very kind of you, Robert to give him some of your youngsters. You are getting some special birds, David.

[Charis]

It wonderful you are getting more birds.
Please. before you bring them to your loft, make sure what ever illness has been taking your birds has been treated and eliminated from the remaining birds. Also, sanitize your loft. It would be so sad for there to be a repeat.