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Posted 15th May 2007, 04:38 AM
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now, the coming back thing.....does it work for certain pigeons only, or any pigeon can be let out and it will come back?
Only homing pigeons have the skill, and it is up to the owner to optimize and perfect that skill with good training.

Birds that have already been homed somewhere else, are usually not a good candidate, but it can be done, not guaranteed. Young birds (homing pigeons)between 4 to 6 weeks are our best candidates, they have no previous training, and you can start fresh, with a clean slate, so to speak.


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Posted 15th May 2007, 05:00 AM
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I have been relatively successful with this method of "homing in" my rollers.
Keep em in a cage where they can see the sun and the western horizon an most of the yard. A height where thay can see above the fences and roofs is preferrable.
Only feed them when you put them back in the box. Always put them back in the box thru the trap. After two weeks use some masking tape and tape the last 5-6 flights on BOTH wings together. This will allow them to fly a short distance and still be catchable if they don`t return to the box. After a few days when they don`t act like they are going to fly away as soon as they get out. Let them explore the area,get on the ground and all those birdie things.
Last step is to pull the tape,open the box and hope for the best.
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Posted 15th May 2007, 07:50 AM
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Well my fantail male (though i just found hes a fantail/tumbler mix hence all tmbler questions) is "homed".. I let him out everyday and he flys well with some "wierd" twist n turns (this got me curious).. He goes away, sometimes for 5-25 mins but comes back, finds my hand as thats their source of food and lands on it..

In my opinion all birds can be "homed" for short distances but show birds or heavy breeds are a no-no..
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I would have to say that "Feed" is the key to getting a bird to home fast. A properly scheduled feeding time needs to be set in order for them to know that they need to get home if hungry.
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Posted 15th May 2007, 08:49 PM
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Theres no reasonable explaination but generally wat i've seen is pigeons dont prefer "dark" areas and clothes.. They dont come near me wen i do so..

Any loud noise made by you, be it they poop on you, will scare the hell out of them.. Once they come near u, then talk slightly getting louder day by day.. Then ur screams wont affect them..

Sudden actions will do u bad.. Any sudden move and their instinct i s to fly away...

Are they caged indoors or outdoors? Adult outdoor birds are generally tamer..

Dont disturb them unnecessarily like seeing the baby; They wingslap if some1 trespasses into THEIR territory..

Sorry abt ur baby...

Last thing:-
You scare em once they'll always be scared and it will take time, a day to months to recover.. First impression is the Last impression.. Rmbr, Trust is gained over years but lost in a second..

Hope it helps..


o thnx alot man...buttah yea my coop is outside...and i let them fly around pretty much everyday. i want some homers though.
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The solution for taming a pigeon is simple, but you must remain consistant and take your time. You must be the leader and offer food only by hand. Once they are eating from your hand, then it is all down hill from there. It won't hurt them to miss a meal or two, so don't worry if it does not work the first couple of times.
My 2 pet fantails are not afraid of me, per se. But they are not exactly "tame" either. I let them out of their cage for daily exercise in a large room of the house. But they are quite stand-offish and sometimes difficult to catch and return to the cage when playtime is over. I would like to try the hand feeding method, but before I do I have a question...

Once the hand feeding routine is set, do I then need to stick to it forever? Or is it ok (once they're trained) to go back to the food dishes and only occasionally feed by hand?

Another concern is that my work schedule is not always perfectly consistent so whereas I can (and do) feed my birds 2x daily, it is not always at exactly the same time, but generally within the same 3 hour period every morning & evening. Do a few hours make a difference in the set feeding schedule? Or is a more general time period ok?
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My 2 pet fantails are not afraid of me, per se. But they are not exactly "tame" either. I let them out of their cage for daily exercise in a large room of the house. But they are quite stand-offish and sometimes difficult to catch and return to the cage when playtime is over. I would like to try the hand feeding method, but before I do I have a question...

Once the hand feeding routine is set, do I then need to stick to it forever? Or is it ok (once they're trained) to go back to the food dishes and only occasionally feed by hand?

Another concern is that my work schedule is not always perfectly consistent so whereas I can (and do) feed my birds 2x daily, it is not always at exactly the same time, but generally within the same 3 hour period every morning & evening. Do a few hours make a difference in the set feeding schedule? Or is a more general time period ok?


nice birds. but i just like their tails.
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is blue bar or, red check or, checker or, sliver bar or, pure black or, or pure white homer better at coming back to the house in a distance? tell me which one you guys prefer, or like?
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If you hand feed even like for 1 minute each day for a month they'll be trained.. Offer feed ONLY in the cage be it by hand.. This way they'll come by themselves to the cage once they see you..

My pigeons have become such that they occasionally peck my hand when changing water cuz of food! They'll follow hand movements.. Its better in a routine but ok if u have other priorities..

Hope it helps..
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If you hand feed even like for 1 minute each day for a month they'll be trained.. Offer feed ONLY in the cage be it by hand.. This way they'll come by themselves to the cage once they see you..

My pigeons have become such that they occasionally peck my hand when changing water cuz of food! They'll follow hand movements.. Its better in a routine but ok if u have other priorities..

Hope it helps..
Thank you Hamza!! Much appreciated!
I will try this. Tired of chasing them around when it is time to go back in the cage : )
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When we got our doves we kept them in the aivary for 2 months with the door open but with a net arround it so they could see the sorroundings but not escape. We were told to do this by the people we brought the birds from. I have no idea how old they were but it seemed to work as they barley leave the street. If it is true that after one year you cannot train them to stay in a different area then we are in big trouble when we move!!
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Thank you Warren!


"When I said hand feed, that means if they don't eat out of your hand, then they don't eat. You then wait till the next day and try again. Believe me, it will not take 100 days."

Just want to say thank you to Warren. Having tried to get my doves to eat out of my hand for several weeks without success, I started trying his method yesterday and now, 24 hours later, they are all cautiously but happily eating out of my outstretched hand. HOORAY! I would never have managed without Warren's excellent advice. Thanks again!
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what kind of homers do u guys prefer??
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"When I said hand feed, that means if they don't eat out of your hand, then they don't eat. You then wait till the next day and try again. Believe me, it will not take 100 days."

Just want to say thank you to Warren. Having tried to get my doves to eat out of my hand for several weeks without success, I started trying his method yesterday and now, 24 hours later, they are all cautiously but happily eating out of my outstretched hand. HOORAY! I would never have managed without Warren's excellent advice. Thanks again!
OK then....just send your check to...... oh yes...did I forget to mention that you can then use this same method to train them to do other amazing things ? .....no, well...this is the main tool to "teach" whatever it is you want them to learn......

No wonder they write about me in various places.....
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what kind of homers do u guys prefer??
After all these years...and the investment of the family fortune passed down by my famous great uncles...the Smith Brothers...(cough drops) I can say without question...that the best "Homers" are the first ones through the trap on race day !! ....




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