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23rd February 2009, 01:06 PM
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How do you feel about pigeon-theft?Pigeon fanciers,
I am conducting a persuasive speech within the coming weeks and need your input. It is not going to be national or anything, but rather a speech for my COMM 1101 course and need opinions to support it the best that I can. SORRY THERE IS A CHANGE IN QUESTION.....IGNORE THE THREAD QUESTION... If I was to argue in making the hobby of PIGEON KEEPING legal, what are some inputs and ideas that you can offer to support that argument? Thank you. Na
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^>^ Snake08 Last edited by snake08; 25th February 2009 at 11:08 PM. Reason: change in question 
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24th February 2009, 12:52 PM
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Hi snake,
It is not really very clear what your question is. If you are asking us how we feel about crime, because that is exactly what stealing is about, the answer I should think is self-evident and obvious. Thieves should be hung up by their thumbs. If you are asking us about the practice of cutting the band off a registered pigeon and trying to keep it, same answer. The pigeon usually goes home anyway so it is a waste of time. Anyway, I assume you probably own some property, perhaps a car or some valuable clothing yourself. How do you feel about someone stealing that? (Are you a real college student or just a joker?)
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25th February 2009, 11:05 PM
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Grimaldy, yes I am a college student......at first I thought about arguing the whole idea that a pigeon fancier should have, to some extent, the right to capture BOP and release them somewhere else. .....however, as I talked about it to other fanciers..they argued that one can't really just take a bird and throw it somewhere and not think that it won't find its way back.....also in that if that is the easiest way for them to obtain their food, then of course they are going to continue to attack pigeons.... So then I thought about pigeon-theft....cause many of many club members' loft have been broken into in the past month and it's hard to start all over again......but then again, we got to the thought that cops don't do much about it because it is right, there is more important things out there than trying to find out the thieves who stole the pigeons....plus, it's the owners fault for not securing his loft better......so i scratched that idea... and now I am to the idea of legalizing PIGEON KEEPING.......I know, there are permit one can just get to make them legal...not exactly...permits are what allows a person to hold the pigeons in a loft.....it still doesn't mean that pigeons are legal to have......unlike chickens, or pheasants, or pigs, or cows, they don't make extremely loud noises; they don't spoil the surroundings around them (as long as the owner maintains it well); and they don't stink. So now I am off to this topic instead..... Sorry for the misunderstanding of my first question....yes, it was a weird worded question.... But if there are opinions about the whole pigeon-keeping and making it legal, please feel free to give your input. And if you would like to contribute ideas to support the legalization of pigeon keeping, please do so. Again, this is just for a class assignment. I just need ideas to base my argument upon. Thank you. Snake
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26th February 2009, 11:44 AM
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Um... did I miss something? Since when do you need a permit? I swear there is a "right to pigeons" law. Can someone look this up??? Kind of reminds me of those people who move into the country and gripe about the smell... 
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26th February 2009, 11:47 AM
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Oh and here is some GREAT reading... http://www.kirjekyyhky.net/15
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“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Mahatama Gandhi “If we see cruelty or wrong that we have the power to stop, and do nothing, we make ourselves sharers in the guilt.” - Anna Sewell "Whenever 'A' attempts by law to impose his moral standards upon 'B', 'A' is most likely a scoundrel." -H.L. Mencken
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26th February 2009, 12:21 PM
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#7
24th February 2009, 03:27 PM
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Read the blogs on David Clausing.com even the FBI got in on it. If your birds are worth $10 who cares, I have several thousand $ in my birds, the thief better hope the cops find them befor i do.
Dave
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#8
24th February 2009, 05:11 PM
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The cops will not waste their time on car theft let alone stolen pigeons. At least that's the case around here. Someone had broken into my car and took my stereo system, I filed a report with the police and asked the cop to be honest with me about what is going to happen with the investigation of my stolen property and guess what he said......I quote "sir to be honest there are a lot more serious issues going around here and finding a stolen stereo system is not one of them" so I said thanks for being honest and walked away. If I continued to follow up on my case then maybe they would have done more but I seriously doubt that they would waste their time because no one was shot or killed. I was very upset that whole day thinking that I pay taxes to support a crapy law enforcement system like we have. If I shot the guy who stole my stereo system then I would be the one going to jail! They would be on me like white on rice! Go figure....lol.
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#9
24th February 2009, 05:18 PM
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How do I feel about pigeon theft?...ummm.....it's bad.
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#11
24th February 2009, 05:41 PM
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Dave - you are too much bro!Lol....I want whatever you had today!
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24th February 2009, 06:25 PM
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Damn! They must be onto me, I've been training my pigeons to pull off a bank heist just like the Doberman Gang!! LOL!! Just kidding, Really, I swear...
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#14
24th February 2009, 06:51 PM
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I have been vandalized many times and cops wont do anything, but just gather info and becomes statistics. They always say they don't have resources/money to do something. They probably think that someone stealing your pigeons is not a big deal. Obviously stealing is stealing--a crime, but it wont be on their higher list of agenda of solving it. Shoot someone who is stealing your pigeons or you get shot because of some thief and you will end with lots of cops at your place. That will be higher priority to them. It is a matter of life and death. It is all in perspective and resources.
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#15
24th February 2009, 07:58 PM
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I feel the thieves deserve a shot to the leg. Not kidding. $10 bird or $10,000 bird.
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