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Old 14th September 2008, 11:08 AM
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Good pics...now make sure they are able to get sunshine and fresh air, if they are in a basement i think you said, you will need to take them outside in an enclosure to let them get some sunshine.
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Old 14th September 2008, 11:30 AM
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That brings up more questions...

The bathroom has a window, so there is some natural light in the room. We're new in the house and we think it can be opened, but we're not sure yet. So there is hope for fresh air and better sunshine.

1. Can you clip flight wings on these pigeons like you would a parrot? 'Cause I would have no problem with them hanging out one at a time upstairs with us.

2. I don't have a place for them to fly outside, but could I get a parrot harness and use that? That paired with clipping the wings should make it safe to take them outside with us, I would think...

3. One pair seems interested in each other, but how will I know when they pair off? Will they stay together in the cage? And is it okay if they don't mate with a pigeon from their year? Because it's one of the 07's that is cooing and following around one of the 08 pigeons. Are the 08's still to young to mate?

One of the pigeons already has a nickname...lol. My 23 mo old son and I are calling him Hoppy. I think it's going to stick. This pigeon is almost the easiest to catch, but always acts like he's about to flutter away. When you do release him he just sits there. He's so cute. He's one of the younger birds.
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Old 14th September 2008, 05:12 PM
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NO, it is not a good idea to clip their wings. There are several styles to clipping wings, pros and cons to all. If not clipped correctly you could hurt the bird....of any type.

Birds enjoy flying, if they are use to flying then having their wings clipped it could make them more fearful. Parrots have a hook bill, and use their beaks as another limb.

Most harnesses, if the bird is not use to them, then it might injure its self. There is pigeonwear which is similar. I think young birds adapt better to something like that, than the older birds do.

It is probably way to soon for them to pair unless, they were already a pair. You won't know male from female till they are settled and that could be weeks... They can mate at about 6 months to 1 year. You really probably don't want them breeding till, a loft or area is set up.

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Old 14th September 2008, 06:31 PM
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What about letting them fly around in the little bathroom they are in? The toilet is covered and there's really nothing for them to get into. Do you think I would have an impossible time catching them if I let them loose? I'm just wanting to make sure they get some exercise.
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Old 14th September 2008, 06:42 PM
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That brings up more questions...

The bathroom has a window, so there is some natural light in the room. We're new in the house and we think it can be opened, but we're not sure yet. So there is hope for fresh air and better sunshine.

1. Can you clip flight wings on these pigeons like you would a parrot? 'Cause I would have no problem with them hanging out one at a time upstairs with us.

2. I don't have a place for them to fly outside, but could I get a parrot harness and use that? That paired with clipping the wings should make it safe to take them outside with us, I would think...

3. One pair seems interested in each other, but how will I know when they pair off? Will they stay together in the cage? And is it okay if they don't mate with a pigeon from their year? Because it's one of the 07's that is cooing and following around one of the 08 pigeons. Are the 08's still to young to mate?

One of the pigeons already has a nickname...lol. My 23 mo old son and I are calling him Hoppy. I think it's going to stick. This pigeon is almost the easiest to catch, but always acts like he's about to flutter away. When you do release him he just sits there. He's so cute. He's one of the younger birds.
the best place to have them outside is in a enclosure. clipping wings, no which you have heard already. they most likely will not like being seperated and being upstairs with you, more stress. if you are going to keep them, they will be better off in a loft outside, together as a little flock, if you only had one then I would say take him out and let him explore the house. If you are going to fly and have homers best to make plans to build a loft and have a place they acan see their surroundings, and a place they can nest and lay eggs, and train the offspring to home to your loft. I would not keep them in a basement with one window in a bathroom for a long time.
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Well, I'm certainly working on a new place for them. They will have something better before winter sets in. My husband is willing to work on something for them. It might not be very fancy, but it will be outdoors...
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Here's some coop pictures:




I don't have any perches yet, so I overturned a box so the dominant ones could get up on something. They were climbing on top of each other in the corner. They seem happy now.
That's a good size coop for 4 pigeons but they will need an aviary to get some excercise. May I suggest that you take this coop outside preferably under a shade and maybe set it on top of a table or atleast set it 3 feet of the ground. You can also cut out a small opening (big enough for the birds to get in) on that box you over turn.
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I would put it outside, but I really don't think it's enough protection in the climate where we live. On top of that I am pretty sure a raccoon or possum could break into this cage with ease. Both are good reasons not to put it directly outdoors. I am having a garage sale this weekend and that is why the garage is off-limits at the moment. After that is done my husband is going to build me an indoor/outdoor temporary coop in there. And I can put this little cage out there and open the garage door during the day.

I am really just waiting for my horse to sell. The funds from that will be more than enough for me to build a nice coop/loft in the backyard.
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Old 15th September 2008, 08:25 AM
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I would put it outside, but I really don't think it's enough protection in the climate where we live. On top of that I am pretty sure a raccoon or possum could break into this cage with ease. Both are good reasons not to put it directly outdoors. I am having a garage sale this weekend and that is why the garage is off-limits at the moment. After that is done my husband is going to build me an indoor/outdoor temporary coop in there. And I can put this little cage out there and open the garage door during the day.

I am really just waiting for my horse to sell. The funds from that will be more than enough for me to build a nice coop/loft in the backyard.
what happens if your horse does not sell?, I think you might of jumped the gun too fast on getting pigeons, It could take months to sell your horse, i would clear out a spot in the garage, put a locking latch on the hutch door and open the door for sun and air.
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Old 15th September 2008, 10:28 AM
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what happens if your horse does not sell?, I think you might of jumped the gun too fast on getting pigeons, It could take months to sell your horse, i would clear out a spot in the garage, put a locking latch on the hutch door and open the door for sun and air.
Jumped the gun or no. I'm sure the birds will be fine. I'm not a broke teen-ager here. LOL. There will be a indoor/outdoor loft either in the garage or a modified shed before winter. I grew up on a farm here, so building cages is nothing new.
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Jumped the gun or no. I'm sure the birds will be fine. I'm not a broke teen-ager here. LOL. There will be a indoor/outdoor loft either in the garage or a modified shed before winter. I grew up on a farm here, so building cages is nothing new.
What Im saying is what if it takes say 6 months to sell your horse, they should not stay in a basment bathroom for possibley that long. I was under the understanding that you need money from the horse to build anything or was that wrong?...the garage with air and sun is better, thats all Im saying untill you sell and have the money in hand and then build....
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Old 15th September 2008, 01:09 PM
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I'll figure something out. I was just saying I would have the money to go out and BUY whatever I needed when my horse sells. Otherwise, it will be whatever I pull together from other sources.

My girlfriend is coming over to stay with me this week. She's one of my farm friends. Who knows what we'll come up with.
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Old 22nd September 2008, 03:18 PM
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Those are homers all of them. The ones the guy didn't know anything about were probably culls. This doesn't necessarily mean they are bad but they were probably given to this guy who turns around and sells them.

Please do not clip these birds feathers they are not parrots and will not sit on your finger. The older pair also appears to be pretty puffed up so keep an eye on that and make sure their droppings look ok. Other than that get them on some good feed, grit when you can, and give them a few weeks to start acting normal. A move is stressful.

They are not rollers and yes you can fly the young.
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