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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:24 PM
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please please help me before they are culled


MY neighbour and myself have had many problems with about 30 white doves and 20 pigeons that permantly live on my roof.

I have now had to stop feeding my garden birds as they are eating everything. I have spoken to the council and they have advised me to get them culled.

I obviously do not want that but we live in a resedential area and neighbours are being disturbed by these birds.

They would be easiy caught if anyone knows anyone that would take them. None have a ring on.


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Fionalp.......first of all, we need to know where you are. We have members all over. Hopefully someone is close and can help.
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:34 PM
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Where in the UK are you?
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:35 PM
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Hello I live in the Uk.
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Right now, none of our UK members are on-line but we can private message them to check this thread when they log in the next time. We need to know specifics, like the town.
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:38 PM
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Hello i am in the Northants area I would love for them to be caught and taken somewhere but I have been advised to get someone in to cull them as they are walking the neighbours up at 5.00 am and we all have a tiny garden.
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:42 PM
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Hello I am in Kettering Thanks Fiona
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Can you wait a few days? We'll see what resources we can locate there for you.

We'd hate for you to call in someone to cull these birds.
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So why is it that my cousins are the ones you hold so sweet?
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:52 PM
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yes i will thank you for helping me but my neighbours are desperate to get rid of them. they land all the time in my tiny garden and make so much noise I think they are doves that have been released.

fiona
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Okay, I've private messaged 5 folks in the UK. There's another one I'll try but he doesn't log in often.

Please tell your neighbors (if they are getting upset with you) that you are trying to get a relocator in to take them rather than to do a cull. It's too bad your neighbors think they make too much noise.

If any of them have leg bands (the birds, not the neighbors ) you might be able to track them back to whoever released them.

Are these birds pretty new in the neighborhood or is it a long established flock?

Please keep in touch and thanks for coming here to ask for assistance first. I'm sure the birds would appreciate it if they knew.
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Posted 26th June 2007, 01:58 PM
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Hi,

Can't be of practical help, I'm afraid - nowhere near you, and certainly can't think of anywhere which would take that number of healthy birds.

If they have been feeding in your garden and that's what is attracting them, and you are not putting food out any more (or maybe just using mesh feeders, which pigeons would rarely tackle), then I would expect them to give up after a while and disperse. But, it does take them a little while to understand there's nothing to wait for.

When you say they permanently live on the roof, do they actually stay on your roof at night, too? Pigeons normally gather and hang out somewhere during the day (specially if there may be food) but disperse and roost at night elsewhere, as do those who gather on the roof opposite my apartment.

I don't believe the council can make you have them culled - after all, you do not own the birds - and if they are on your property,the council cannot take action themselves.

Frankly, I just cannot understand the culling attitude - the whole 'if it disturbs people, kill it' thing. If the council start making noises about 'disease', then they are talking out of their hats ... no-one is going to get anything from walking by house with a pigeon or 50 pigeons up on a roof.

I suppose it might just conceivably be possible to trap them, though not all in one go, by means of throwing very large nets over them at night - if any contractors have that ability - and then relocate them, but they'd have to be relocated some considerable distance.

John
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yes i will thank you for helping me but my neighbours are desperate to get rid of them. they land all the time in my tiny garden and make so much noise I think they are doves that have been released.

fiona
Hi Fiona,

Quite possible! To see a large number of white pigeons together is not usual, unless they originated from someone - maybe originally a small number who then bred uncontrolled - or were used as 'ceremonial' releases. There are certainly companies and individuals who claim to do 'white dove releases' here who do just that - release birds, but not birds which they have bred and kept and trained to return home. I would be surprised if there was not such a a venture somewhere around Northampton.

John
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Posted 26th June 2007, 02:32 PM
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Hi Fiona,

Thanks for posting this. It is extraordinarily irresponsible of your council to suggest culling them; not only would doing so be unethical, it would be illegal under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.

Would you mind emailing a contact number for you so we can give you call urgently tomorrow and discuss what can be done? I promise you we'll do everything within our power to help - even if that's not quite the same as guaranteeing we can help! info@savethepigeons.org.

Finally, can I thank flitsnowzoom for emailing me privately about this; I log on infrequently, I'm ashamed to say, and would have missed this otherwise.

Niel
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Posted 26th June 2007, 02:45 PM
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Hi Fiona,

Don't know if the place below can help? If not they may know of somewhere else you could relocate your birds?

Name: Safewings
Address: Isham
Phone: 01536 726113
Species Cared For: All Birds

All the best at this difficult time.

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