well, just feeding the ferals and....

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by little bird

That is a good question. In NYC, we have crazy ''legal'' problems when we feed. The NYC Parks are posted NO FEEDING PIGEONS and if you feed on the premises of the park, you are breaking park regulations and can be given a ticket. If you feed on the public sidewalk or in the street, they can give you a ticket for littering. If you feed on your own property, neighbors can call the Health Dep't and you can be given a ticket. The city makes it almost impossible to feed pigeons and NOT be breaking some regulation for which they are allowed to give you a ticket and after a few tickets...a fine. However I do not know of a law on the books that would allow you to be arrested. You just have to use your imagination and try not to be noticed.

ok I get it now...is it because of poop that they don't want them to be fed? why do they not want people to do this?

[little bird]

If you ask the people who are against feeding...you ALWAYS get the BS about disease etc.

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Originally Posted by little bird

If you ask the people who are against feeding...you ALWAYS get the BS about disease etc.

where did they get that idea from? Are they just not educated about the birds or is there any truth to that?

[little bird]

The greater part of published stories about pigeons always has a line or two about how ''diseased and infective'' city pigeons are. Even the Health Dep't gives you a ticket based on how your feeding pigeons will harm your neighbors. Yes, they cite the droppings as the biggest source of these '' diseases''. Fact is the droppings that are in the areas that are rained on are usually washed away with the next rain. If these lazy people would just hose the covered areas, like under the bridges, there wouldn't be an accumulation of ''disease'' bearing droppings. Educating the pigeon haters is like trying to fill a bucket with water when there is a big hole in the bottom.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by little bird

The greater part of published stories about pigeons always has a line or two about how ''diseased and infective'' city pigeons are. Even the Health Dep't gives you a ticket based on how your feeding pigeons will harm your neighbors. Yes, they cite the droppings as the biggest source of these '' diseases''. Fact is the droppings that are in the areas that are rained on are usually washed away with the next rain. If these lazy people would just hose the covered areas, like under the bridges, there wouldn't be an accumulation of ''disease'' bearing droppings. Educating the pigeon haters is like trying to fill a bucket with water when there is a big hole in the bottom.

sounds like some power washers would do the trick, maybe the pigeon feeders can volunteer to do this in exchange for letting people feed and care for the pigeons. I know they use power washing at theme parks and everthing looks nice and clean...just an idea...if you can take care of what they are afraid of then maybe you can bargan with them..give them what they want and you get what you want kinda thing..

[little bird]

It's a great idea, only problem is, so very many of NYC feeders are little old ladies! Can you just visualize one walking to the feeding place with a power washer under her arm? Fact is, God takes care of most of the cleaning and little old ladies should be able to enjoy just being little old ladies.

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Originally Posted by little bird

It's a great idea, only problem is, so very many of NYC feeders are little old ladies! Can you just visualize one walking to the feeding place with a power washer under her arm? Fact is, God takes care of most of the cleaning and little old ladies should be able to enjoy just being little old ladies.

...lol...