Bird hit by car

[altgirl35]

you cant catch west nile from touching a infected bird, it's not transmitted that way.

[Msfreebird]

The point is - the person felt bad with the choice they made, came here looking for a number to call in the hopes that the bird could still be helped - and didn't get any help. They just got ridiculed.
Kinda ironic - Isn't this situation similar to the little 4H girl that came here for help (too late in some people's eye's) and got a hard time from members (I missed that thread, so I don't know what was said to her)
But that incident led to a new thread about being more sympathetic

[LokotaLoft]

Originally Posted by Msfreebird

The point is - the person felt bad with the choice they made, came here looking for a number to call in the hopes that the bird could still be helped - and didn't get any help. They just got ridiculed.
Kinda ironic - Isn't this situation similar to the little 4H girl that came here for help (too late in some people's eye's) and got a hard time from members (I missed that thread, so I don't know what was said to her)
But that incident led to a new thread about being more sympathetic

I agree yelling at people doesnt help anyone or anything ..do you like to be yelled at ?? I think not .. all you are instilling in people when you do is to not bother looking for help at all.

[Flying Jay]

Originally Posted by Msfreebird

The point is - the person felt bad with the choice they made, came here looking for a number to call in the hopes that the bird could still be helped - and didn't get any help. They just got ridiculed.
Kinda ironic - Isn't this situation similar to the little 4H girl that came here for help (too late in some people's eye's) and got a hard time from members (I missed that thread, so I don't know what was said to her)
But that incident led to a new thread about being more sympathetic

I totally agree with Msfreebird you guys are to buisy aruing. that this person really did not get any help from us. I really hope the bird(what ever kind of species it is) is ok..God bless, Romo.

[altgirl35]

your right, i didn't see that thread either.

[altgirl35]

looking back on this post it looks like none of us stayed on topic to try to help her including me, kicking myself in the butt! instead it turned into something else.
i will remember to not do that.
if you come back susan can you tell us what happened, heres a list of rehabbers in your area
http://www.ccwr.org/resources/carehab.htm

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by altgirl35

looking back on this post it looks like none of us stayed on topic to try to help her including me, kicking myself in the butt! instead it turned into something else.
i will remember to not do that.
if you come back susan can you tell us what happened, heres a list of rehabbers in your area
http://www.ccwr.org/resources/carehab.htm

I think this thread turned into another learning experience -----
by the time I responded is was 3 hours after the original request for help and "ssss" was gone. After reading their 1st response, I didn't think they'd be back - at least I wouldn't come back if I got a response like that on a new forum.
Hopefully "ssss" continued to look for help, and got some.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by Msfreebird

I think this thread turned into another learning experience -----
by the time I responded is was 3 hours after the original request for help and "ssss" was gone. After reading their 1st response, I didn't think they'd be back - at least I wouldn't come back if I got a response like that on a new forum.
Hopefully "ssss" continued to look for help, and got some.

I agree, she was asking if someone close could help the bird, not a lecture on her conduct.

[yopigeonguy]

um ok if she doea come back again someday for somethng else or if someone else comes looking for help can we give them some help please.

i just want to say that this is a kind of post that should never ever be handled this way!

we are here to help, not fight or juge!!!!!

[Mindy]

Maybe I could have chose my words more carefully, but I was thinking of the poor bird that wasn't even moved off the street. ssss hasn't been back on since she posted. I checked her profile page and the last time she was on was when she posted it. She doesn't say that it is a pigeon but she posted it under pigeon and dove forum. If it was another bird she would have posted in other bird forum. I'm assuming. I answered it almost 2 hours after she posted so the chances of the bird still be there, alive is probably slim. Especially with school traffic, I mean everyone is picking up there children nowadays. I should have been more sympathetic for the person instead of the bird I guess, lesson learned. mindy

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by Mindy

Maybe I could have chose my words more carefully, but I was thinking of the poor bird that wasn't even moved off the street. ssss hasn't been back on since she posted. I checked her profile page and the last time she was on was when she posted it. She doesn't say that it is a pigeon but she posted it under pigeon and dove forum. If it was another bird she would have posted in other bird forum. I'm assuming. I answered it almost 2 hours after she posted so the chances of the bird still be there, alive is probably slim. Especially with school traffic, I mean everyone is picking up there children nowadays. I should have been more sympathetic for the person instead of the bird I guess, lesson learned. mindy

AND the bird
Mindy, I understand what you were thinking --But, you have to take into account the person's circumstances also, and not just blurt out your feelings.
Scenario - Maybe they've been out of work for awhile (alot of people are), but their also an animal lover. They may be desperate for a job and didn't want to mess up the interview? A person's survival comes first. (I mean, if we can't survive and take care of ourselves - how can we take care of animals?)
They felt bad enough about the choice they made to keep going.
Thank you for acknowledging.

[Mindy]

Lets pretend that I never even answered this thread and can you guys write what you would have written to ssss. I would like to learn from situation also. Thank you, mindy

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by Mindy;431012

Lets pretend that I never even answered this thread and can you guys write what you would have written to ssss.
I would like to learn from situation also. Thank you, mindy

If I had been the first respondent I would not have addressed Susan specifically. It was apparent she wasn't even on the site, therefore she would not have seen the message.

I would have posted a general message, something like, "HEY!! Anyone in the San Francisco area, we need your help, NOW."
In addition I would have sent Charis a pm or email. We all know she is a master detective (I'm serious when I say that) and has never declined to help.

Cindy

[altgirl35]

i would have asked to call local wildlife rehabilitators or animal rescue league if they had one in her area, even animal control if she had no choice

[Mindy]

Okay Charis, if I asked you to go pick up the bird in Pleasonville (that could be wrong can't remember exactly) what would you have done? Is that town/city near San Francisco? Not only that, we don't know if the bird is alive still.
I also want to mention my state of mind when I posted, I had just got home from saving a squirrel. She is still upstairs actually, if I would have came home and got on the squirrel board and said there was a squirrel hit on the road and I left her in the road can someone go get her, I think they would have thought I was crazy. But I like what Altgirl said, if you encourage and teach someone to save one animal they will naturally start seeing more animals in need and start helping them. Very smart thinking altgirl.

Just a side note, I'm letting the squirrel go tomorrow. She had blood coming from her mouth and I wanted to make sure she could still eat hard nuts. And believe me, SHE WANTS OUT!!! Thank you for having the patience and teaching me how to handle delicate situations. I Have to get my emotions in check!! mindy