could this be Paratyphoid Its A Baby

[horsesgot6]

Ok I Started A Thread Here : http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=25345 About This Bird It Was One Of 3 There Is A Picture Of this Baby Along With The Other 2 On The Other Thread.
The Picture For Some reason Shows The babys Back Red It is Not red. The Baby Is eatting Fine Other Then Me Hand feeding It. I'm Useing Kay-Tee. Its Poop Looks Good. The Biggest Problem Is Its Not Growing Very Fast.
The whole Story Is On The Other Thread If You Need More info Let Me Know.
Thanks For Your Time And Have A great Day.

[Trees Gray]

Are there any other symptoms other then seemingly stunted growth?
Did the parents stop feeding the baby too?

[horsesgot6]

Originally Posted by Trees Gray

Are there any other symptoms other then seemingly stunted growth?
Did the parents stop feeding the baby too?

Yes The Parents Stoppied Feed This One / Or I'm Thinking The Others Got to Big And Little One Was Just Not Getting what He Needed When The Babys Where Close is Size Things Where Fine. But Then The Other 2 shot up Like A Rocket And This One Stayed Small.

No Other Symptoms Other Then The Stunted Growth.

I Don't Tube Feed He Eats The Kay-Tee. Littleone Puts His Beak in My Fingers And eats With No Problems.

In The Picture The dark Baby was The Extra One then The One With the Most white thats this ones Brother/sister.

[Trees Gray]

Does the baby have any bald spots? Does the poop smell? Is the baby breathing open beaked?

[horsesgot6]

Originally Posted by Trees Gray

Does the baby have any bald spots? Does the poop smell? Is the baby breathing open beaked?

Bald Spots I would say No. Littleone Still Hasn't Gotten any Feathers Yet So Not sure if that would count. I how ever can see a hint on the wing that looks like the feathers may start soon.

Poop smells fine to me.

Breathing is fine no open beak.

[horsesgot6]

I have seen Air in his crop. I went to feed him one day and he had so much air you would have thougth he had been feed.

[Reti]

Most likely it is not paratyphoid. He seems fine except for the growth. He might just be a slow grower, or didn't get enough food from the parents from the start or he might just be genetically small. As long as he is eating, pooping, growing feathers and maturing I wouldn't worry.

Reti

[Maggie-NC]

Hi Jennifer

I know you have your hands full with all the new babies you're having to take care of but, personally, I would just bring the baby in the house, set him up in a warm environment and continue to hand feed him. That way, you can weigh him daily and observe his poops more easily.

I know it is more desirable to leave it with the parents but I think it is running a big risk to keep him with them particularly since the other two are growing so rapidly. They may decide to stop keeping him warm and featherless babies can get chilled rapidly.

I'm not that familiar with how paratyphoid affects baby pigeons but it seems to me that he is simply a bit behind in his growth and needs extra TLC and feeding. You can get a product called Nutrical from most pet stores, usually in the dog product area. Squeeze about 1/4 - 1/2" in the formula at least twice a day. This will help add calories and provide vitamins too.

[horsesgot6]

Originally Posted by Reti

I wouldn't worry.

Reti

We all know thats easy to say just not do Sometimes.

Thanks I'm Sure He Will Be Fine I Just Worry about this Littleone. I'll keep Everyone Update On Him/her.

[Lovebirds]

Jennifer, here's a picture of my little runt back in 2006.
There's a before and after picture. To this day, two years later, she's a very small bird but healthy as a horse as far as I can tell.

[horsesgot6]

Thanks Renee For Find that Picture. I'm Glad to know Your Little one is in Good Health. That Makes Me even More Hopeful About My Baby. I'm Really Just Thinking He Is just Growing Very Slow. He really Is Very Healthy Other Then being Small. He eats very Well, have To Say its Nice feeding This Baby he Is So Easy To feed.

I'll Keep Everyone Updated And thanks for everyones Time Have A Great Day.

[Margarret]

Jennifer,

Glad to hear he is easy to feed and thanks for the updates on him. I'll watch this thread to see how he is doing.

Margaret

[pigeonpoo]

I had the same with a pair of my birds. I helped by pulling the larger baby then feeding the parents and waiting a while before putting the larger baby back in. Every time I top up the food the parents feed and then feed the babies.

Here's the baby with it's nestmate


And later when they'd grown some; it caught up eventually and now I can't tell iit from the others.

[maryjane]

I'm glad the baby is doing okay, Jennifer. My little runt Toto is very small, and was never ill. I don't know why he's so little. He's smaller than a dove and almost three months old. But he's healthy and a happy little guy, and wing-slaps the other babies around when they start to boss him at all. As long as your baby's poops smell okay and he's not acting ill at all, he's probably just a "runt" like Toto.

[horsesgot6]

Wanted To Update On Little One. One Of His Legs Won't Go Out All the Way. Its Like Its froze at The Knee Joint The Other Leg Works Fine. Little One Can Still Move His Feet And Toes And The Upper Part Of The Leg Just Not The Knee Part. He Is Still Fine Eatting And Pooping Great. I don't Think This Was Here Before But Not Sure I've Never really Looked At His Legs Just His Body And Then His Poop. I'm Away From My Home And At The Library Rigth Now I Just Wanted To Let you Know What was Going On And What I Found.