H E L P---one of my feral flock is badly injured

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by Pidgey

But barring having that, you might spray a little bit of WD-40 on a section and see how that might do on a single feather--you can wash it off with a soap easily enough. I've heard that the main ingredient is actually some kind of fish oil.

Pidgey

Originally Posted by mr squeaks

Did you ever try WD-40, Phil??
I have heard it is non-toxic and can used for many many things!

Shi

Originally Posted by pdpbison

'WD-40' does not appear to losen or dissolve the offending material.

Was a good idea though...

Phil
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Just a little FEI (For everyone's information)
On the back of the WD-40 can it states, as one of the dangers:
Breathing Hazard
Use only in a well ventilated area. Do not Breathe vapor or spray mist.
DELIBERATE OR DIRECT INHALATION OF VAPOR OR SPRAY MIST MAY BE HARMFUL OR FATAL.

Cindy

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by lwerden

Phil...........It didn't surprise me that the
WD 40 didn't work.

I've been doing alot of research on these glue traps and also adhesive removers.

You can try the Mineral/Vegetable oil, but I have also seen that maybe Baby Oil might work. The oil remedies primiarily work to loosen the animals from the traps or strips. I don't think it will work to remove the residue.

I think our birds only hope it the "Detachol" stuff. I will be trying my damnest on Monday to get my hands on this stuff. In all the research I have done, that seems to be the only thing that works, other than actually cutting the feathers off the bird.

Please hold off of any trimming until I get the Detachol and we give that a try.

As long as the bird is stable, eating, drinking and pooping well, poor little thing will just have to be patient until we can get her clean.

Thanks Phil for all that you are doing!!!

Hi Louise,



Oh yeah...I'm in no hurry to 'trim' anything...



If nothing else, 'Time' would do it on it's own anyway.



Phil
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[Lambish]

She sounds so very darling.

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by AZWhitefeather

Just a little FEI (For everyone's information)
On the back of the WD-40 can it states, as one of the dangers:
Breathing Hazard
Use only in a well ventilated area. Do not Breathe vapor or spray mist.
DELIBERATE OR DIRECT INHALATION OF VAPOR OR SPRAY MIST MAY BE HARMFUL OR FATAL.

Cindy

Yes...same as with any Aerosol.


One would make sure the Bird is safe from breathing in any of the mist or 'fog' or fumes of 'spraying'.


I was careful...sprayed her Tail outside...walking back in immediately.



Phil
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[corvid]

Hi guys

I was working back in Arizona on Mourning Dove , which had same thing, my hubby is a

guy, which works with glues and silicones and stuff. Back then i was afraid to use anything besides know to use stuff. We had same result with w-40, did not help. So then my hubby said to try lamp-oil, or kerosene. At that point i was desperate to do anything, so we did. That was the only stuff which did take it off the rubbery , glue deposit from the feathers. Is based on petroleum, but is not so thick as mineral oil is. Dont use mineral oil , go for a lamp -oil. HOMEDEPOT. Then wash with soap.

Nell

[Pidgey]

I knew you'd be careful, Phil. It never even occurred to me that you'd wantonly envelop the bird in a cloud of the stuff.

Pidgey

[corvid]

PS. GOO GONE is based on petrolium also, not on acetone. We never did use it, but should work my hubby said .

Nell

[lwerden]

I have the Goo Gone in front of me. It says: Contains petroleum distillates.
Avoid contact with skin. Use in well ventilated are. Flammable, do not use near heat, sparks or flame.

Do you think that this would be safe to use on a pigeon???

[Charis]

Originally Posted by lwerden

I have the Goo Gone in front of me. It says: Contains petroleum distillates.
Avoid contact with skin. Use in well ventilated are. Flammable, do not use near heat, sparks or flame.

Do you think that this would be safe to use on a pigeon???

I would wait and use the product that you know will work.If the Pigeon is kept warm, she will be ok until you find some. The warnings are worrisome.

[lwerden]

I did a little research on Goo Gone.

Here are the actual chemical ingredients:Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Solvent naphtha, petroleum, heavy aliphatic 064742-96-7
Terpenes and Terpenoids, type citrus oil


I don't like the sound of the "T" words. Sounds like terpentine in citrus oil to me.

I am still going to find the Detachol tomorrow.

[TAWhatley]

What about something really simple and safe? Our member, Lady Tarheel, has posted a number of times about using Chinchilla Dust to cause the sticky stuff to pill/ball up and then just pick it off by hand. Might be a bit tedious, but it might work. AND, it might not work as the bird has already been "washed" a few times.

Terry

[corvid]

like i said i did use lamp -oil on the Mourning Dove and that was the only thing which did work. The bird was fine >I think that the same warning you would find on the back of the container we were using.

I know is working and I know bird was doing okay.She was released 5 months later with the bunch of others, I did not see any harm done . Her fethears were a bit lighter after, but she got the color back with time, after preening with her oils.

Nell

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by corvid

Hi guys

I was working back in Arizona on Mourning Dove , which had same thing, my hubby is a

guy, which works with glues and silicones and stuff. Back then i was afraid to use anything besides know to use stuff. We had same result with w-40, did not help. So then my hubby said to try lamp-oil, or kerosene. At that point i was desperate to do anything, so we did. That was the only stuff which did take it off the rubbery , glue deposit from the feathers. Is based on petroleum, but is not so thick as mineral oil is. Dont use mineral oil , go for a lamp -oil. HOMEDEPOT. Then wash with soap.

Nell

Hi Nell, all...



Any aeromatic Solvent, or de-facto Aeromatic solvent, will tend to produce chemical burns on skin, or, to be readily absorbed in skin, to enter the system of the patient.



Kerosene...'Lighter Fluid', Jet Fuel...all work very well as 'Solvents' for cleaning many things, but...they must be kept off of the Bird's skin...and their odor/fumes must not be breathed by the Bird.



Acetone, Benzine, MEK, Lacquer-Thinner...these or others would probably dissolve the 'goo'...however, their fumes could be dangerous for the Bird.


Kerosene hasrelatively little fumes compared to many other Solvents.



Phil
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[lwerden]

Terry............That sounds like a good idea, if the glue was localized to one small area.

With this poor bird it would be more than tedious.........it would be a monumental task. You have no idea how much of this gooey mess is involved. It is her entire chest & belly.
All of her entire tail, and all of the long wing feathers. It is really pittiful to see.

I am going for the "Detachol" first as it is safest means of removal. You said it worked great for you, but it is hard to come by. Hopefully I can obtain it locally when all the medical supplies houses open up tomorrow. If not, I have found three sources that would ship it to me.

I spoke to Phil thisafternoon and the little one is doing great. Her foot is getting better and she is starting to stand and put weight on it. She is eating, drinking and pooping really good. She is just one gooey mess of feathers.

I am striving for the best possible outcome for this bird..........she is a sweetheart. I can't wait to bring her home. I already know it is going to be real difficult to release her when the time comes.

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by Pidgey

I knew you'd be careful, Phil. It never even occurred to me that you'd wantonly envelop the bird in a cloud of the stuff.

Pidgey

Lol...


I know you know...but was just addressing a wider audiencce...


Phil
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