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6th April 2006, 06:05 PM
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No, I don't. Wish I did though. So what next? I'm going to be leaving for church in Mexico at 6:30, what should I do while I'm there? I'm going to get some water down it for sure.
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6th April 2006, 06:07 PM
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Well, stabilizing the water and food is the most important. Eye ointment (I guess that stuff's okay) will be the second priority and getting the wound dealt with will be the third priority. I wouldn't fiddle with the wound until I knew he was eating, drinking and not going to die of infection.
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6th April 2006, 06:31 PM
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OK, that's what I'll do then. I'm not sure that the pharmacy part of the store is open at night but I'll be able to get it tomorrow morning if it's not.
Oh, and about it being docile, it fights to be held but will sit on my hand, and it fights to be fed but will suffer itself to be touched. It didn't move when I cleaned the wound but really I don't think it could feel anything anyway. I wasn't holding it when I cleaned it. Terry got the pictures and said she would add them to the others soon. I probably won't be here but you can still look at them and comment?  Thank you so much for all your help!! Alice
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6th April 2006, 07:13 PM
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6th April 2006, 08:00 PM
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Well, those pictures bother me a little bit. The swelling is in the conjunctival tissues and it's possible that the inflammation may spread to being inside the eyeballs. That doesn't mean the infection--I mean the edema. If so, what can happen is that the pressure inside the eyeballs can rise to the point of becoming glaucomic. The net result is that bloodflow into the retina (the lining in the back that creates the images we see) can be reduced and then the result is permanent blindness beginning with the peripheral vision and then down to tunnel vision and then it's over for good.
It's horrible not knowing what forms of medicines you can get and how you should use them. One of the ones that I wish you could get would be Keflex (Cephalexin) capsules-500 milligrams. You'd use one capsule in one cup of water, shake it up like mad (break the capsule to empty the powder in the water) and let it drink about 1.5 ounces of that water, that day, or about 45 milliliters. We really need to know how much water it drinks in a day because we need to get about 80 to 90 milligrams down the bird in about 3 evenly spaced shots and that might be more water than he's going to want or drink willingly. If you'd rather make 5 equal piles and then divide each pile into 3 equal piles, you can give him one of those littlest piles three times per day spaced as wide as you can get. I'm assuming he's a 200 gram bird. The way you'd give him one pile is to roll it in a piece of paper like a cigarette and don't tip it until you can hold his beak open and tip it way, way back into the very back of his throat. Or, if you have a syringe, you can mix the powder with a little water (half a syringe load) and then slowly drop that in his open beak while stopping to let him swallow. If the medication that you can get is Amoxicillin, then 30 milligrams, 4 times per day. You'll just have to ask the pharmacist what size tablets (better a tablet than a capsule) that he's got and how you can split it up to get a 30 milligram unit out of it. That's probably about as far as we're going to go with this line of reasoning. I hope the little fellow gets better, but the pictures don't look good. Pidgey Last edited by Pidgey; 6th April 2006 at 09:04 PM.
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6th April 2006, 09:45 PM
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I can get Keflex. So are you saying that I would give 1.5 oz of the Keflex water a day and 3 oz of water total a day?
It ate and drank tonight but I didn't measure but would guess it was probably almost but not quite 1.5 oz of water. Not at one setting but before and after church which would be 2 settings. The pharmacy was closed but I'll get what I need tomorrow morning. If it takes Keflex would it still need the Amoxicillin? I sure hope it lives and doesn't go blind!!
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6th April 2006, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
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7th April 2006, 04:47 AM
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Well, that's a deal where it's kinda' tough--it needs it spread throughout the day on that particular drug. If it were Ciprofloxacin, a once-a-day shot works pretty well but that's not quite the right drug here, I think. You need to spread it out as long as possible. Just out of curiosity, does this bird have a waterer that it drinks out of on its own? If that's the case then you can probably leave it that way--you give it a bunch with the water through the day and leave some in its water for the rest of the time.
Are you seeing any signs that it can still see? Pidgey
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7th April 2006, 07:31 AM
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Last night she went in circles trying to get away from the spoon of water that I was trying to get it to drink. It saw out of that eye, I'm not sure about the other one. It keeps them shut half of the time and if one is open then the other one is usually shut.
I don't know if the bird would drink on its own but I'll be sure to leave some. But I'm still confused about the dosage. I want to put it into the water not just give the powder though I could do that if it's preferred. But how much does it need a day? 1 pill or 1.5 oz of the Keflex water? Also, how should I give it today because we are going to be going over there tonight b/c 6or7 guys are coming from a Bible college in Mex to stay during Easter break to work on the church. Which leads to another problem- today is the last day of school until April 25th. We will be going to Mex during this coming week off and on b/c of the guys and maybe even daily if my brother is going to go help them work, I'm not sure if he is or not. Maybe I could find one soft-hearted-toward-animals guy that would take care of it while I'm not there?? I don't know but God will take care of it all........
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7th April 2006, 07:49 AM
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How is he??
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7th April 2006, 07:56 AM
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Well, I'm not sure this morning but if you want you can look at yesterday's pictures that Terry posted a few posts up. Not too good at this point...
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7th April 2006, 08:10 AM
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Probably the infection getting worse. If it were me--I'd divide the capsule up into piles like I outlined and give him the medicine straight over three shots divided as well in the time I had as possible. That is, five equal piles and then divide one of those into three equal piles, given as close to 8 hours apart as possible.
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7th April 2006, 08:12 AM
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It's highly likely that he won't make it if he doesn't get "round the clock" care, at this point. He's probably going to need warmth, food and water administered at regular intervals through the worst of it.
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