Injured bleeding Rock Dove

[dreams_of_Ice]

My sister just brought in a dove she found hiding on our porch. The dove's side under the doves side under teh wing is ripped up. There aren't any bird vets or rehabs in the area. I don't know what to do. Can anyone help? I have a couple photos of the injury but ...I wasn't sure if I could post them. They are close ups of the wound. I don't want to offend anyone but I really need some help.

We have it in a box with food and water we didn't want our pets to upset it.

Help please.

[Lovebirds]

Please hang on........someone will help you. It is all right to post the pictures. We've seen it all around here............
If you can tell us where you are, maybe with luck, one of our members is close by and can help out.

[feralpigeon]

Hi there and thanks for bringing this bird in for help. Please remove the food and water from the box for now. If you can post the pictures, please do so.
Also, please let us know where you are located, we may have someone in the
area.

fp

[pdpbison]

Originally Posted by dreams_of_Ice

My sister just brought in a dove she found hiding on our porch. The dove's side under the doves side under teh wing is ripped up. There aren't any bird vets or rehabs in the area. I don't know what to do. Can anyone help? I have a couple photos of the injury but ...I wasn't sure if I could post them. They are close ups of the wound. I don't want to offend anyone but I really need some help.

We have it in a box with food and water we didn't want our pets to upset it.

Help please.

Hi dreams,


Yes, post the images, or post links to them.


Let us know your location, in case one of us may be close by.


Mourning Doves are typically VERY sensitive and somewhat fragile and over-reactive in their ways...even when injured.

This one possibly was injured by a Cat or Dog, and would need to be put on to some specific Antibiotics as soon as possible, as well as posssibly to have these wounds evaluated, cleaned and sutured...


I will check back to your thread in a little while.

I hope you live close to me, I'd be glad to help.


Phil
Las Vegas

[dreams_of_Ice]

I'm in Rogers City Michigan. Attachment 6888

[feralpigeon]

From our Resource section which you may need the link to when the dust
settles:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f25/

Is this link on basic steps for saving the life of a dove/pigeon:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=8822

I want you to have this on hand to refer to, though folks will be walking you
through this for the time being.

Wounds are best washed (very gently patted down) w/sterile saline
solution of you have some on hand. Which comes to the topic of what
medicines do you have on hand in your medicine chest?

fp

[feralpigeon]

I'm assuming that you have taken a look at this link which is why you stated
that you have no rehabbers in your area? If not, have a look and see if there
is anyone close by:

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/showthread.php?t=8817

fp

[pdpbison]

Hi dreams...


Eeeeeeesh...


More images would be good, and ones which are easier to see the relation of Wing to Body, also...


Ohhhh-boy...from what I can see, this is a definitely serious injury/wound.


Forget about food for today...they can coast without any...and as fp advises, yes, do remove the water for now also.


Advise us as to any poops the Dove is making...how many, what they look like...this is important also.


I can not tell if there is substantial skin missing, or instead, a lacerated area.


I will wait for more images.


See if you can make the image larger in format ( not dpi, just format) so it is not postage stamp size.



Back soon...

Phil
Las Vegas

[feralpigeon]

Are you anywhere near Bay City, MI?

fp

[dreams_of_Ice]

Anti Scabies Cream

and a

Septic Stick

We had a minor emergancy at a week or so ago and ended up clearing out the medical kit. We have a week before we have any money in the bank at all.

This is why we need a freaking bird vet! (Sorry not mad at you guys just horribly frustrated. Last week we my sister brought home a Seagull with a minor head injury. He was fine after about an hour or so but when we called the vet and the cops for help they said if anyone came out they would destroy it. Anything but Eagles or Hawks are basically worthless in this area.

We did clean the wound lightly at the time it was bleeding really badly. Not so much now, mainly only when it freaks out and moves to fast. Hence the box.

[pdpbison]

Hi dreams,


You can make a decent 'sterile' solution for gently washing the injury...

Boil a Quart or so of 'cold' Tap Water, having let it run for a few minutes first.

Remove from the Stove in the Saucepan, and let it cool a little.

Add say three Tablespoons of common Table Salt ( or non Iodine salt if you have any) and stirr...cover, and let cool till room temperature.

This then is a tolerably sterile solution which can be usdef ro washing an injury.

Boils a small Glass also, in the Water to begin with, and use it to dip into the solution to then gently pour on to the wound, keeping your fingers more or less on the same part of the galss, and not dipping that part when you get more.

Just boil the Glass again when you need to use it again, or put it into some cool water which has maybe 10 percent common household 'Bleach' in it and wash it well after it has sat for say fifteen minutes in that...again, more or less keeping your fingers in the same part of the glass and not dipping that part.


Do you have any Neosporin? or can you get to a store and buy a fresh tube of it?

Phil
Las Vegas

[dreams_of_Ice]

I don't know how to make the format bigger. If anyone can help with that I would be grateful. As for Bay City is over 150 miles away so I doubt I could get anyone to come up here. We can't go there as we don't have a working car.

[pdpbison]

Hi dreams,


One thing you could do...to buy time...

Is to ( as you maybe have already done anyway) gently wash t he wound with a sterile solution which is merely body temperature or sllightly cool...

Then, if you have a fresh tube of Neosporin, saturate some sterils Gause with the Neosporin, some folded layers of gause...cover the Wound, close the Wing back over it...and gently tape the Wing closed with some scotch tape.


Are the Dove's Legs alright?


You may have to prop him up in some soft clothes so he does not fall over.


Anyway, this would buy some time in it's way, pending someone near you who could take over.


Best wishes!


Thanks for hslping this little Dove!


I know it can be very frustrating...!

And I know help can be VERY hard to come by even for 'easy' ones...


Best wishes!


Phil
Las Vegas

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by dreams_of_Ice

I don't know how to make the format bigger. If anyone can help with that I would be grateful. As for Bay City is over 150 miles away so I doubt I could get anyone to come up here. We can't go there as we don't have a working car.

email the pictures to me and I'll get them posted.

mrskennedy911@comcast.net

[dreams_of_Ice]

It's had maybe three droppings in the last hour and a half. All Mostly white. When it first came in it passed three dark green within 20 minutes. My sister is out trying to get some neosporin from my neighbors. (Mom mom and grams are disabled, my siste and I take care of them full time so we only have income once a month. No spare money at all at the moment.)