ivermectin help please!

[Naunnie]

Please bear with me. I am only familiar with ivermectin used for injections. Labeled for cattle and swine. I have seen adverse reactions used topically. This type is not soluble in water but can be mixed and will remain stable in refrigerated “treats”. I mean… meat balls prepared for a week’s worth of treatment for demodex mites for dogs. This medication has so many beneficial uses, but is the water soluble type much different? The bottle Dovelove was posting; the directions… were to mix with a gallon of water. Any remaining could be refrigerated and given again in 14 days. For just a few birds could only a ½ gallon be mixed? Or maybe a ¼ at a time? I’m wondering if the shelf life (once seal is broken) would be as long as the injectable type.

[Naunnie]

Thanks Dovelove. That was my question too. We must have benn posting at the same time!!!

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by Naunnie

Please bear with me. I am only familiar with ivermectin used for injections. Labeled for cattle and swine. I have seen adverse reactions used topically. This type is not soluble in water but can be mixed and will remain stable in refrigerated “treats”. I mean… meat balls prepared for a week’s worth of treatment for demodex mites for dogs. This medication has so many beneficial uses, but is the water soluble type much different? The bottle Dovelove was posting; the directions… were to mix with a gallon of water. Any remaining could be refrigerated and given again in 14 days. For just a few birds could only a ½ gallon be mixed? Or maybe a ¼ at a time? I’m wondering if the shelf life (once seal is broken) would be as long as the injectable type.

Eqvalen (ivomec for horses) is water soluble, that's the one I use.
I don't see any reason why she couldn't break that down to 1/4 bottle to 1 quart of water.

[dovelove<3]

so it sounds like i can break it down??

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by dovelove<3

so it sounds like i can break it down??

I see no reason why you can't. Its the same consistency (?- can't think of the correct term) just a smaller portion mixed. It's done all the time with meds to get down to the proper dosage.
If 1 bottle is mixed with 1 gal/water, then 1/4 bottle would be 1 quart/water.
I would mix the bottle (of ivomec) good before adding to water just in case of settling on the bottom. You want it evenly dispersed.

[dovelove<3]

ok this is good. i didnt want to have to make a whole gallon for 2 doves. and im pretty sure only the one actually has worms.
thanks for the help everyone. meds are on the way.

[kingsley hannah]

well i am an avid beliver of dosing any new birds to the loft externaily with 2-4 drops on the back of the neck, it works a treat and very vary really do i get any feather mite or scaley and never lice ether, it is prety hard to overdose the birds

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by kingsley hannah

well i am an avid beliver of dosing any new birds to the loft externaily with 2-4 drops on the back of the neck, it works a treat and very vary really do i get any feather mite or scaley and never lice ether, it is prety hard to overdose the birds

The only problem we have in this case is that we don't know what solution (of ivomec) she has. The one she got is meant to be mixed with water.

[Jay3]

I'd buy it at Foys next time. I buy the 0.5% and just give a few drops down the throat, then again 12 days later. Easy with just a couple of birds.
This is from their web site.


Ivomec
Status: IN STOCK

Used to treat worms and parasites. It is not advisable to give to birds that are very ill. The drench is meant to be used in the drinking water at the rate of 8 cc/ml to a gallon for one day and then repeat in 10-12 days. The 0.5% is used for individual birds, 3 or 4 drops down the mouth, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% may be used down the mouth at the rate of 2-3 drops, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% is also used by many to rid the birds of external blood sucking parasites by rubbing a few drops on the foot.


#519 Ivomectin 0.5% 10ml/cc $9.95

#582 Ivomec Drench 32 oz. $99.95

#558 Ivermectin Injectable 100 ml/cc $59.95

#584 Ivermectin Injectable 50 ml/cc $54.95

[bluebirdsnfur]

Originally Posted by Jay3

I'd buy it at Foys next time. I buy the 0.5% and just give a few drops down the throat, then again 12 days later. Easy with just a couple of birds.
This is from their web site.


Ivomec
Status: IN STOCK

Used to treat worms and parasites. It is not advisable to give to birds that are very ill. The drench is meant to be used in the drinking water at the rate of 8 cc/ml to a gallon for one day and then repeat in 10-12 days. The 0.5% is used for individual birds, 3 or 4 drops down the mouth, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% may be used down the mouth at the rate of 2-3 drops, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% is also used by many to rid the birds of external blood sucking parasites by rubbing a few drops on the foot.

#582 Ivomec Drench 32 oz. $99.95

#558 Ivermectin Injectable 100 ml/cc $59.95

#584 Ivermectin Injectable 50 ml/cc $54.95

I used this one too . . . couple drops down the throat, pretty easy. But I only have a few birds.

[dovelove<3]

Originally Posted by Jay3

I'd buy it at Foys next time. I buy the 0.5% and just give a few drops down the throat, then again 12 days later. Easy with just a couple of birds.
This is from their web site.


Ivomec
Status: IN STOCK

Used to treat worms and parasites. It is not advisable to give to birds that are very ill. The drench is meant to be used in the drinking water at the rate of 8 cc/ml to a gallon for one day and then repeat in 10-12 days. The 0.5% is used for individual birds, 3 or 4 drops down the mouth, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% may be used down the mouth at the rate of 2-3 drops, then repeat in 10-12 days. The 1% is also used by many to rid the birds of external blood sucking parasites by rubbing a few drops on the foot.


#519 Ivomectin 0.5% 10ml/cc $9.95

#582 Ivomec Drench 32 oz. $99.95

#558 Ivermectin Injectable 100 ml/cc $59.95

#584 Ivermectin Injectable 50 ml/cc $54.95

i am assuming its the 9.95 one that you use. i cannot aford $100 on this medicine. but the 9.95 on is only 10 mil. the one i got is 55ml and was only about $10 more. plus shipping from where i ordered was cheaper too. i think foys was like 12 something and where i got was about 8. i was only looking for where i could get the most for the cheapest price. im not the richest person and so i cant go out spending 100 dollars one medicine. im just trying to take care of em the best i can.

[Jay3]

Originally Posted by dovelove<3

i am assuming its the 9.95 one that you use. i cannot aford $100 on this medicine. but the 9.95 on is only 10 mil. the one i got is 55ml and was only about $10 more. plus shipping from where i ordered was cheaper too. i think foys was like 12 something and where i got was about 8. i was only looking for where i could get the most for the cheapest price. im not the richest person and so i cant go out spending 100 dollars one medicine. im just trying to take care of em the best i can.

Yes, I bought the 0.5 for $9.95 I couldn't afford $100 for one med either. But I have 21 birds, and it will last quite a while. Meds do expire after a while, and you only have a couple of birds. You don't need quantity. And every couple of times, you should change what you give them so that the parasites don't build up a resistance to the drugs. They are more effective that way. So having two different kinds for the same thing is good. The 10 ml would have lasted you a very long time. It would expire before you used it all. If it expires, you haven't really saved anything. I don't have lots of money either, and like you, I'm just trying to take care of them the best I can.I use that a couple of times, then I use Wazine that you put in the water. It worked good for me.

[dovelove<3]

Originally Posted by Jay3

Yes, I bought the 0.5 for $9.95 I couldn't afford $100 for one med either. But I have 21 birds, and it will last quite a while. Meds do expire after a while, and you only have a couple of birds. You don't need quantity. And every couple of times, you should change what you give them so that the parasites don't build up a resistance to the drugs. They are more effective that way. So having two different kinds for the same thing is good. The 10 ml would have lasted you a very long time. It would expire before you used it all. If it expires, you haven't really saved anything. I don't have lots of money either, and like you, I'm just trying to take care of them the best I can.I use that a couple of times, then I use Wazine that you put in the water. It worked good for me.

ok what confuses me now is that your saying 10ml would have lasted me a long time
but the medicine i bought which is 55 ml was a one time poor it all in a gallon of water thing. but i am breaking it down to about 3.5ml per cup. so the 10 ml would really only last two time. possible 3...
i dont know if im missing something? please help me understand. lol

[Msfreebird]

Originally Posted by dovelove<3

ok what confuses me now is that your saying 10ml would have lasted me a long time
but the medicine i bought which is 55 ml was a one time poor it all in a gallon of water thing. but i am breaking it down to about 3.5ml per cup. so the 10 ml would really only last two time. possible 3...
i dont know if im missing something? please help me understand. lol

**It depends on the strength (mg of ivermectin per ml)**
For example - Eqvalan (the one I use) Liquid for horses. Comes in a 100ml bottle - But the strength is 10mg per ml (this 1 bottle would treat 1 - 1100lb horse! sooooo that's roughly equivalent to 3000 birds-depending on their weight ) This one is meant to be a "drench"(mixed w/water) so to break it down for birds I have to put 3.78 mls per 1 gal water.
There are alot of Ivermectin solutions out there, that's why it's important to know the strength of each, because the dosage is going to be different for each one.
I know, confusing

[Jay3]

Originally Posted by dovelove<3

ok what confuses me now is that your saying 10ml would have lasted me a long time
but the medicine i bought which is 55 ml was a one time poor it all in a gallon of water thing. but i am breaking it down to about 3.5ml per cup. so the 10 ml would really only last two time. possible 3...
i dont know if im missing something? please help me understand. lol

The 10ml, is 0.5% and the way you give it, isn't in their water. You use a dropper, and give each one like 3 drops to the back of their throat. ONLY 3 DROPS. There are lots and lots of drops in a 10ml bottle. It would last much longer than what they are sending you to mix in their water. It comes in different strengths and you give it different ways. The 3 drops down the throat per bird, and then you do it again in about 12-14 days. It lasts an awfully long time, especially if you only have a couple of birds.