My Satinette started throwing up?

[bradygirl]

about 1 1/2 weeks ago my Female Stainette was not acting well. She would not stand up and had diarrhea and kept putting her head down. I was very worried about her so I took her to the vets. He said that he thought she had an intestinal infection and gave her a shot of antibiotics, and some to put in her water. I asked him if it could be a problem with an egg, and he said no, that he didn't feel anything, and showed me where to feel. I took her home and she started acting better. The next day she was acting more her self and flew up on top of one of our doors. When I went to get her down she layed an egg on me in mid air. After that she seemed fine.........Now starting today she has thrown up 2-3 times. She has never thrown up before...ever!!
It contains some seeds and grit, and has some green stuff in it. What should I do. Should I be concerned?? I don't want to rush her off to the vets for nothing, but she is like my child....I have raised her from out of the egg, and can't let anything happen to her. Please let me know what you think. I have always trusted all of your opinions.

Thanks
Bonnie

[Lovebirds]

Did she lay one egg or two? When did that happen? How many times has she thrown up? Just trying to get an idea of what might be going on.
I had a hen that was throwing up. I treated her for everything in the book. She just kept throwing up. During all this time, she was molting pretty heavy. Once she got through the molt, she quit throwing up and has been fine ever since. I had never seen that before, but it did happen just a few months ago. It was kinda weird.
Well, I see you said she threw up 2 or 3 times...............

[bradygirl]

She only laid one egg. She has done that before, with no problems. She is an inside bird a little over a year old. She is the only one so her eggs are not fertilized. I wish she wouldn't lay them, but she is so affectionate, that I think she thinks I am her boyfriend. I am hoping that another one is not stuck or something. I can not tell by feeling, and neither could the vet since I think it was far up, and she is a little plump as the vet said. I just can't have anything happen to her....She comes to work with me everyday, and sits on my desk with me. I love her like a person, ( probably More as my husband would say)> please help with ideas

Bonnie

[Lovebirds]

Well, personally, if it was me..........I'd call the vet. She's a pet and the only one and if it was me, I wouldn't be doing any guessing.
I have 100 plus/minus at any given time, and unless it's an emergency, the vet is out of the question. It wouldn't be that way if I had only one bird that I loved as much as you love this one.
When you're talking about a bunch of birds, in a loft and outside, it's easy for them to pick up "stuff"......worms, cocci, etc...........I wouldn't think that's the case with your bird though.
Maybe others will be along with some suggestions. I hope she'll be ok.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by bradygirl

She only laid one egg. She has done that before, with no problems. She is an inside bird a little over a year old. She is the only one so her eggs are not fertilized. I wish she wouldn't lay them, but she is so affectionate, that I think she thinks I am her boyfriend. I am hoping that another one is not stuck or something. I can not tell by feeling, and neither could the vet since I think it was far up, and she is a little plump as the vet said. I just can't have anything happen to her....She comes to work with me everyday, and sits on my desk with me. I love her like a person, ( probably More as my husband would say)> please help with ideas

Bonnie

egg binding is nothing to mess with...take her back to the vet, if not an egg, then get her poop checked out, adding organic apple cider Vinager to her water on a regular basis is good for digestion...if the throw up had green that is worrisom, she may have a sour crop or infection from, make sure you check her for canker too.

[bradygirl]

I felt where I think that it could get stuck, it feel like there is something there, but I can't remember what it felt like before. When she was sick before she never threw up. She seems to be acting ok.. I had a hot turkey sandwich for lunch which is one of her favorites,and she went to town...she threw up about 20 mins later with some seed and gravy, grit and a little tiny part of green. I am going to keep an eye on her, and if she gets worse I will take her to the vets tonight, or if still trowing up tomorrow I will take her then. I just don't have the money to take her back again if its just something simple, since i just took her 1 1/2 weeks ago. She just flew over to her food, and water...and took a BIG drink or water. I am not sure if that is good or bad. she jumped on on the chair and got a little fluffed up and looks like she is going to sleep. Her feathers don't look like the fluffed up ones when they are sick.

[Charis]

Bradygirl....I wouldn't mess with it by waiting to see if she gets better on her own. That usually doesn't happen. If she is egg bound, you may not have much time. It could be something completely different too. Have you ever wormed her? Whatever, she does need to be evaluated by a veterinarian.

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by bradygirl

I felt where I think that it could get stuck, it feel like there is something there, but I can't remember what it felt like before. When she was sick before she never threw up. She seems to be acting ok.. I had a hot turkey sandwich for lunch which is one of her favorites,and she went to town...she threw up about 20 mins later with some seed and gravy, grit and a little tiny part of green. I am going to keep an eye on her, and if she gets worse I will take her to the vets tonight, or if still trowing up tomorrow I will take her then. I just don't have the money to take her back again if its just something simple, since i just took her 1 1/2 weeks ago. She just flew over to her food, and water...and took a BIG drink or water. I am not sure if that is good or bad. she jumped on on the chair and got a little fluffed up and looks like she is going to sleep. Her feathers don't look like the fluffed up ones when they are sick.

stop feeding her....pigeons are not meant to eat meat...stop feeding her junk! not doing her any favors. let her have her acv water and hold off on feed untill you get her checked out....people food may be really hurting her digestive track....if she has a second egg in there she can DIE from it being stuck, get her to the vet....Oi!.......

[bradygirl]

She didn't eat any of the meat today, just licked some of the gravy. What is ACV water? If it was really an egg stuck wouldn't she be acting more sick. She seem to be acting ok. The problem is that where we live there are very few vets that will treat pigeon/birds in general...I usually take her to this one in particular and the bird vet will not be in till tommorrow. I am going to keep an eye on her and if she not feeling any better I guess I will have to take her to the emergency vet.

Let me know about the water.

Thanks
Bonnie

[Trees Gray]

Pigeons are seed and grain eaters, do not allow her to eat gravy or other people food. That may be causing her to up-chuck.

ACV is apple cider vinegar, the organic kind like Braggs or wild oats brand ( a tablespoon per gallon). The acidity provides good environment to allow good bacteria growth and keep bad bacteria numbers down in the crop and digestive tract.

Please do seek out a vet if she hasn't laid and normally does.

[Lovebirds]

Originally Posted by bradygirl

She didn't eat any of the meat today, just licked some of the gravy. What is ACV water? If it was really an egg stuck wouldn't she be acting more sick. She seem to be acting ok. The problem is that where we live there are very few vets that will treat pigeon/birds in general...I usually take her to this one in particular and the bird vet will not be in till tommorrow. I am going to keep an eye on her and if she not feeling any better I guess I will have to take her to the emergency vet.

Let me know about the water.

Thanks
Bonnie

That's Apple Cider Vinegar. Put anywhere from 1 to 4 tablespoons in a gallon of water. I personally go with 1, but maybe a bit more is better, IF the bird will drink the water. If she won't drink the water, then of course, it's not going to a bit of good. If it's been more than a few days, like a week, since she laid the one egg, I doubt it's an egg issue. If she went that long with an egg stuck, I'm pretty sure you would KNOW that something is wrong. If it's only been two days or less, then a stuck egg is still quite possible.

[Birdmom4ever]

I think diet is part of the problem as pigeons are grain eaters. I would not allow her to have any meat or gravy. But she may also have an egg issue. What about calcium? Indoor birds often fail to get the calcium and vitamin D they need to produce and lay their eggs even if they have grit. Try giving her a calcium + vitamin D supplement such as Citracal. Satinettes are pretty small, so you can break the tablet in half and give her just half at a time. Gently open her beak and pop it in and she'll swallow it just as she would a dried pea or piece of corn. This is what I do for hens that have problems with calcium absorption.

[pdpbison]

Hi Bradygirl,


Throwing up could be it's own issue, whatever else is going on Egg-wise.


ACV-Water @ Four Tablespoons to a Gallon, would be a good idea.


Better yet, three or four days on 'Medistatin' or 'Nystatin' also.


Slightly 'sour' Crop or early stage Candida/Yeast problems in the Crop, can see them throwing up, 'fluffing' and feeling poorly.


Possibly the Seed is iffy...containated, or had got damp at some point...



Good luck..!


Phil
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[bradygirl]

Hi All,

I took her to the vet and the vet again gave her a shot of antibiotics. I told him that the day after she was sick last time i took her in after getting the shot she layed an egg. Not sure if that was the whole problem or not. He said he couldn't feel and egg but also gave ner a shot to help her if there is one stuck. every once in awhile she opens her mouth really wide and does this weird head shake thing thant scares me. It like she is having a small seizure. The vet said maybe she has a reproductive problem or infection, and that if she isn't better tomorrow to bring her back in for another shot. I am really worried about her she is sitting on a chair next to me , just kinda looking not well. She keeps closing her eyes which makes me nervous. I guess maybe I should leave her alone for awhile because the visit was probably pretty traumatic for her with getting 2 shots and all. Any other ideas of what it could be, or other treatments would be very appreciated.

Thanks
Bonnie

[spirit wings]

Originally Posted by bradygirl

Hi All,

I took her to the vet and the vet again gave her a shot of antibiotics. I told him that the day after she was sick last time i took her in after getting the shot she layed an egg. Not sure if that was the whole problem or not. He said he couldn't feel and egg but also gave ner a shot to help her if there is one stuck. every once in awhile she opens her mouth really wide and does this weird head shake thing thant scares me. It like she is having a small seizure. The vet said maybe she has a reproductive problem or infection, and that if she isn't better tomorrow to bring her back in for another shot. I am really worried about her she is sitting on a chair next to me , just kinda looking not well. She keeps closing her eyes which makes me nervous. I guess maybe I should leave her alone for awhile because the visit was probably pretty traumatic for her with getting 2 shots and all. Any other ideas of what it could be, or other treatments would be very appreciated.

Thanks
Bonnie

why can't he take an exray to rule out eggbiding?.....