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Posted 5th March 2005, 12:17 PM
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I got home not that long ago and my neibor comes over, and tells me that a bird hit her window this morning. I go over, scoop up the bird every easly, and brought it over. I was able to ID it as a juvinile Purple Finch. Its body and wings are fine, but when I put it on its back it began to gasp. By checking in its mouth I saw blood!! There is also some blood around its beak and alittle in its nostiles (remove it).
Can some one help me.
Hilary Dawn


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Posted 5th March 2005, 01:11 PM
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Hi Hilary,

I will leave it to others to advise on this as I have so little experience of birds other than pigeons ans don't know what a purple finch is (I am in the UK), but I think that any bird can become distressed if it is laid on its back. It is not a natural position for a bird and can be fatal for birds with crops as the crop contents can get into the trachea.

It might be best to put the finch in a warm, dark, ventilated box to reduce any stress while you are waiting for advice.

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Posted 5th March 2005, 01:52 PM
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I think Cynthia's advice about keeping the bird warm, dark, and quiet is about all you can do. Is there a wildlife rehab facility near you that could take the finch in? It seems likely that there is internal injury based upon the blood in the mouth and around the beak. I hope the little bird just needs some time to recuperate and will make a full recovery.

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Posted 5th March 2005, 02:00 PM
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Cynthia is correct .... putting a bird on it's back can cause a hemmorage if the is head/mouth trama has been caused by flying into a window. Her advice about container is correct too. A cardboard box with towel [ no loose string ] on the bottom, you can also fashion a nest out of another towel if it wants to roost. Cover the box with another towel, if you have a heating pad put it under the box on medium between a folded towel or blanket. Keep in a quiet, dim, warm room offer water and seed. Try to locate a songbird rehabber close to your area.
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Posted 5th March 2005, 02:04 PM
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The bird is very alert. He'll fall asleep for awhile then wake up and look around with bright eyes.
I'm going to call the Bird of Prey rehaber and ask some questions about the finch (he told me he delt with a few).
I'll post the results in a few.
Hilary Dawn
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Posted 5th March 2005, 02:14 PM
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Just called.
He asked if the beak was loose (no), if there was any sweling (yes, alittle), then he said that I could release to bird right away!!
I'm going to be keeping the bird for the night, though, so he can rest and shake off the shock of the collision.
Any other advice on what I should do?
Hilary Dawn
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It is a beautiful little bird.It sounds like the impact probably did cause the injury.I agree with you.I would keep the bird warm and comfortable at least over night in a dark place and then attempt to release it.Thank you for caring for the bird.Good luck in the morning, and let us know how the release turns out.
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That is a beautiful little bird.
Before releasing him, please check his mouth again for any blood. Also, make sure he has no visible injuries and he is eating and drinking.

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Posted 5th March 2005, 06:00 PM
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I just checked his mouth and everything is clearing up.
When I took him out of the cage he did a little fly around to the room (he's soo small it's hard to hold him ) he was all tukered out after that.
I gave him some sray milit and water, but all he's doing is laying down.
Keep you all posted.
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People call us monsters because we work at an animal shelter and have to put down hundreds of animals each year.
But if we're the monster, then what would you call the people who are truely responsible for all these animals' suffering and eventually...their deaths?
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Posted 5th March 2005, 06:22 PM
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Hi Hilary,

Thank you so much for caring and giving this finch a warm place to rest up. I hope tomorrow he is better & ready for release. Songbirds are not nearly as tough as pigeons and do get stressed very easily. Unfortunately a lot of injured ones don't make it. It seems like yours is a fighter. Good luck...and please have good news for us tomorrow.
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You've done well Hilary and have very good instincts and a good knowledge of birds .. I think it would have been unwise to release this bird right away.

Hopefully the little one will be just fine in the AM.

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Posted 6th March 2005, 09:47 AM
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Talking

He made though the night in leaps and bounds.
When I woke up this morning he was bright eyed and very alert, he started eat and drinking, and jumping all over the carrier.
He seems to be doing great. I checked his beak and the little swelling that was there is gone, and his tounge is not swelled anymore (no blood either).
I'm not sure if I should release him today or tomorrow.
Any thoughts??
Hilary Dawn
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People call us monsters because we work at an animal shelter and have to put down hundreds of animals each year.
But if we're the monster, then what would you call the people who are truely responsible for all these animals' suffering and eventually...their deaths?
~Hilary Dawn
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If he is eating and drinking (not too stressed), I would keep him another day.
Thank you for the great update.

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Day of recovery, some food and water shouldn't hurt, tomorrow sounds good.
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