Our Pigeon is sick with fluffed out feathers & runny clear droppings

[deedee]

Her diet has been regular pigeon food from pet stores.
her breathing is 29 breaths per minute.

She seems exhausted though and very tired.



eta: just giving her a cuddle and theres no bump in her neck where her crop used to be...


eta: her breathing is 40 breaths per minute, shes out of her cage sat on the floor in the lounge.

[Pidgey]

The 30 would be more-or-less normal and 40 isn't much of a rise. Keep an eye on that to make sure that it's not continually rising.

Pidgey

[deedee]

Update:

She seems a tiny bit better today, but she seems to be craving grit, the large white pieces of grit to be exact and the white bits of her food which she then spits out...
Could this be a calcium thing? is there anything I can give her until I get something proper tomorrow?

(i left her with the grit btw because her crop felt really flat and I was worried about her food stagnating in her stomach?)

[Trees Gray]

I'm so sorry to hear about your bird. While you are waiting to take the bird to vet...

Here is what I would do:

I would put the bird on heat, if you haven't done so.
If she has wet droppings put a towel between heating pad as well as a clean plastic garbage bag or Chux pads-between bird and pad.

Make sure to feed the bird if she isn't eating on her own.

She may not be properly processing the calcium, so it is best to try another form.

For wet droppings, like from coccidiosis:

I would give the bird a drop of colloidal silver down the throat for infection
& give a capsule of probiotics or add a bit of kefir down the throat with a syringe. A garlic capsule which is basic for any healing program to build immune system.

This works very well.

Then for egg issues:

1.Try a drop or two of olive oil down the throat, as well as colloidal silver.

2. A small cap of chlorella for beneficial minerals, or alfalfa (1/4 of a tab) down the throat for calcium. I will slick down the cap with a drop of Neem oil, another great immune booster.

3. A cap of Cod liver oil from pristine source, will give vitamin D and help with calcium absorption.

4. Brewers yeast for beneficial B vitamins, also good for muscles and nerves. This wone is best to give with kefir or probiotics, as it will discourage any yeast.

These help with strengthening the muscles to help her push out any egg debree that might be inside, the Olive/Neem oil helps to transport it out and the colloidal silver helps with infections of any kind.

[deedee]

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately we don't have any of that stuff apart from the olive oil she's never been sick before and we wouldn't know where to start regarding a pigeon 1st aid kit.
Having never kept birds as pets or anything we're totally clueless. Hootie was a bird we found dying at the side of the road, so took her home so she could go in peace, but she pulled through and has not been ill or given us any cause for concern since.

But now that there is a problem we're stuffed! Ive given her a quarter of a crushed calcium tablet and shes wandering about the kitchen at the minute so Ive not given her a heat pad yet.

She seems to be a little sensitive to light too...

[Trees Gray]

She needs to be in an area with subdued light and confined to a comfy cage, where there are no drafts of air.

You can use a whole plain yogurt-with cultures in it, it will do in a pinch, it will help multiply the beneficial bacteria and get the gut back in order, it just doesn't work as efficiently as probiotics or kefir. I would also use a drop of organic apple cider vinegar that will also help with PH and help enable the environment to be more acidic for goos gut bacteria growth.

The calcium may help, as any supportive measure will be beneficial. The colloidal silver can be purchased at a health food store, and even on line. I highly recommend it for any egg issue as well as coccidisosis as it really helps with any infection.

[Pidgey]

Why do you think she's sensitive to light? Is she going into dark corners to stand, or something?

Pidgey

[Feefo]

Hi DeeDee,

Please PM me your address. I can send you colloidal silver and calcium as well!

I know that it is risky to send out personal details on the Internet, but I have been a member of this forum for 5 years now and I know others, including many ofthe moderators, will vouch for me and confirm that a pigeon's welfare and survival is my only concern.

Cynthia

[Pidgey]

I'll vouch for Cynthia--she's good people. You're safe with her.

Pidgey

[Reti]

Originally Posted by Pidgey

I'll vouch for Cynthia--she's good people. You're safe with her.

Pidgey

Ditto.
Cynthia has helped me so many times. She is an angel.

Reti

[Maggie-NC]

And, I like her so much I would trust my most treasured pigeon to her any day, any year. She is just top notch!

[CHRISTIN RN]

Greetings, Dee-Dee.

So sorry to here about your Hootie not feeling well.
My prayers are with you guys!

If you have difficulty counting the breaths for a full minute...you may count for 6 seconds and multiply by 10 in a pinch to keep a close watch.

The members here, including Cynthia, are top notch and most caring for the well-being of their's as well as all of our feathered friends!

I'm sorry that I'm not knowledgeable about your Hootie's condition, but many of the folks here whom are advising you are.

I'll look forward to the good news of Hootie's full and quick recovery!

[Feefo]

Thank you Pidgie, Reti and Maggie. LOL, I just wanted you to confirm that I am not a psychpath, bunny boiler , fraudster or worse!

Cynthia

[deedee]

Hi,
thanks you guys, I'm not worried about giving out my details youre all obviously genuine and good people.
Ive pmmed you my address Cyro, thank you so much!

Todays update: Last night she passed a poo which wasn't clear (it was runny but has green in too, sorry if youre eating lunch) after I'd given her some of a calcium tablet.
She doesn't seem as sensitive to light today, she seemed to be hiding in dark corners but in the corner that she keeps going for the flooring is up and shes pecking at the chipboard flooring underneath... strange...
She seems to be looking for something that shes not getting or lacking?
its so hard to explain and it doesnt help that we know bugger all about birds

her poo is clear and runny again though she is eating and wandering about a bit, whereas on saturday night we thought we were going to lose her.

thanks so much again,
x

[AZWhitefeather]

Originally Posted by cyro51

Thank you Pidgie, Reti and Maggie. LOL, I just wanted you to confirm that I am not a psychpath, bunny boiler , fraudster or worse!
Cynthia

Cynthia,
You're definitely NONE of the above.
You are, however, a genuine Internet friend of mine, & many others.

Deedee,
Sending positive thoughts that your little patient shows signs of improvement soon.
Please do keep us posted.

Cindy