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Old 4th March 2007, 05:17 AM
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Update

Went into London Wildcare yesterday and saw Pebbles - she is fine. I was actually placed in the Small Mammals and Isolation ward to do this week where Pebbles is, so I got to clean her out, weigh her and of course give her a cuddle. She has dropped 4g but she is 324g anyway so a good weight. Her notes say that she is fine, she is eating on her own and not being forcefed and can I just say, that out of the 5 birds in there with PMV, she is the calmest of the bunch. She is just a dream to handle whilst the others - OMG, you need 2 pairs of hands!!!! She also appears to have the best case of PMV if you can call it that .i.e. her symptoms are not as severe as the others.

I done an update on my other thread about my stories from the hospital!!
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Old 4th March 2007, 05:30 AM
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Hi Tania,

Thanks for the update! I am so glad that you found Pebbles in the first place and that she is doing well!

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Old 4th March 2007, 05:07 PM
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I have a pair of pigeons that recovered from PMV. The cock bird had an extreme case and the hen a slight case. In fact I thought that the cock bird was dead numerous times. Somehow I got them back to normal. The cock was down with it in January. I brought him in the house and put him in a pet taxi in the basement. I then put him in a 6 inch by 8 inch plastic tub inside the pet taxi and put some rags on the bottom so that when he went into his corkscrew mode he was eventually able to stand and eat. I put the hen in a seperate cage. When he was able to stand I put them together. The sub zero weather here prevented me from puting them back ouside in their coop. Well she laid eggs so I put a nesting bowl in the cage and some rags to put the eggs on. They both hatched but one died. The other is doing fine. My question is this "Can these birds now be put with other birds or should they always be kept seperate including their young?" I understand that they always carry this disease and it could infect other birds at any time.
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Old 4th March 2007, 06:15 PM
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They stop being contagious after 2-3 months, I think, or even less.
I have several PMV rescues with my other birds and none ever showed any symptoms of the disease. I kept them in isolation for three months.
Since one of your birds had PMV in January, he might still be contagious, maybe that's why the one baby died.
Hope the other one wil be fine.

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Old 10th March 2007, 11:10 AM
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Pebbles continues to be a "model" patient at London Wildcare.

Her notes say that she is progressing well and that her PMV is not too bad.

We had a new volunteer start today - Gavin ( a really lovely young man who apparently is always picking up pigeons when out driving his van) and Pebbles was nominated as the calmest pigeon in the ward to be Gavin's first victim ( clean and weigh)!!

Of course she behaved impecabbly - you can hold her with one hand and she doesn't struggle - and she is so pretty...... ( but I am biased of course!)

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Old 10th March 2007, 11:23 AM
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That's just GREAT, Tania!

Now that you are experienced, you can give Gavin all sorts of tips!

Sure glad to hear the men are getting into the act!

BTW, do you ever get to see Ted much?

LOVE AND HUGS TO YOU ALL!!

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Old 10th March 2007, 11:44 AM
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Sure glad to hear the men are getting into the act!

BTW, do you ever get to see Ted much?
Hi Shi,

Yes we have quite a few men doing the work - On Saturday- we have two 16 year old boys who are handy for cutting up chicks! and we have Chris who is in his 30's and expert at feeding baby creatures and now Gavin - Gavin seemed very keen and I was "showing off" a bit with my knowledge of pigeons and their ailments ( all courtesy of Pigeon-Life!!) and then there is CYNICAL James who is on the staff there - he says that Racing Pigeons are lazy...... don't worry he gets a "look" from me!!

I get to see Ted every Saturday - he does disappear though if there is a game of rugby on - he used to play Rugby apparently and along with beer, food ( and wildlife) it is his passion!! Luckily for us England are playing Rugby tomorrow so Ted was with us today but he was later seen in the resident fox pen with a pneumatic drill - don't worry he hadn't flipped and turned into some sort of driller killer - the 11 resident foxes have been moved into a different pen whilst Ted, James and the "boys" make some adjustments to the fox enclosure, which they started off with destroying the concrete floor ( not good for foxes delicate paw pads) - they are going to get something softer!!

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Old 10th March 2007, 12:38 PM
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Tania, If I lived ANYWHERE near the Center, I, too, would be volunteering! Ted is my kind of guy AND I would love to meet you!

Well, I'll just have to content with PT!!

PLEASE SAY HI TO TED! He has ONE BIG FAN in the U.S.!!

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Old 11th March 2007, 05:47 AM
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PLEASE HI TO TED! He has ONE BIG FAN in the U.S.!!

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I will send your regards....

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Old 11th March 2007, 07:24 AM
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I understand that they always carry this disease and it could infect other birds at any time.
The pigeons stop shedding the virus after 6 weeks, but the virus can last longer than that in feathers, water, and fecal dust. That is the 3 to 4 months timespan that Reti mentioned. As far as I remember the young that have not been infected will have immunity for something like 3 months. It is only if they are infected tghat they too will shed the virus for up to 6 weeks.

Do you have a bath in the coop? If you have the cock will be in danger of drowning, that happened to my with my first PMV rescue.


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umm, WHERE ARE PHOTOS OF PEBBLES?!
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Old 12th March 2007, 01:25 PM
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umm, WHERE ARE PHOTOS OF PEBBLES?!
You know what Aias - I have a really crap digital camera but I will take it in next week and because she is such a model patient I am sure she will sit still for a piccy - I will try........

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Old 13th March 2007, 12:49 PM
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Pebbles life is in danger!!

I got an e-mail today from Ted, the guy who runs London Wildcare who had previously advised me that if I bought him a certain type of cake she would get specialist care. Well I haven't yet and I got this reply today from him....

Ps I haven’t forgotten the fondant fancy thing either…just so we’re clear on that point…wouldn’t want anything unpleasant to happen to poor Pebbles, would we?

I had better get those cakes for him Saturday!!

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Old 13th March 2007, 12:52 PM
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What a monster!!!!!

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Old 13th March 2007, 01:09 PM
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Oh no You better get started on the cake NOW!!!!

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