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Posted 27th June 2019, 09:22 AM
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Alas, I don't have experience with acoustic insulation rolls. I'd just call a guy (which you did )

That's a nice wallpaper you have there. I like the pattern.
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Posted 27th June 2019, 09:26 AM
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As others have shared, splay legs will happen if the proper nesting material is not in place. True, twigs can be hard to come by as well as other materials. Even a small bowl low bowl can be used with nesting material added into it. Bits of straw and even collected feathers, leaves, etc. A batch of washcloths or fabric in the bottom can be used for traction and then shredded paper added on top can be found in pet stores by the bag for absorption. Often I will use small doggie pads for a base and then build on that as well. Here is a link to paper nesting bowls at Jedds. https://www.jedds.com/shop/disposabl...ted-nest-bowl/ Of course there are other pigeon supply stores you can find online too. Here is a youtube video on making your own bedding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GLtRGEjClM If you don't catch the splay legs in the first week of their life then it is far more difficult to save them. If splay leg does start, I bind the legs with a stretch bandaging, i.e. soft bracing, so as to help keep their legs under them. The ounce of prevention is truly worth several pounds of possible cure in this case. Best wishes for baby, parents and "Grand - Dove Ma"
Thanks so much for your great help and advices, Bright Eyes.

I will ask to the agricultural supply stores and garden centers where I buy pickstones, etc if they sell these paper nest bowls (at home I just have a plastic cat bowl). I have a concern: the parents moved to this handmade "house" months ago (I think about last January), they always use it as nest (I replace the real eggs with fake eggs), they love it. If I find a paper bowl and replace their home with it, do you think they could abandon the baby?

I have doggie pads so I can use one of them for a base. I went to a park out of the city and I picked up some leaves, straw and some sticks (see the pic): are they good? I can add some feathers and shredded paper too. I just found some pine needles.
As I don't have the bowl, can I start to put the doggie pads inside my pigeons' home and build a nest on it? How can I do it without bothering/scaring the baby and parents? What is the best way to pick up/handle a so little baby?

I also have a different question: when the baby will be ready to travel? I should come back to Italy (it's at least a 5/6-hour drive), I postponed my departure because of the baby, of course...Just need to get an idea about it...

So sorry for all the questions and thanks again for your help 😊.
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Posted 27th June 2019, 09:44 AM
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Alas, I don't have experience with acoustic insulation rolls. I'd just call a guy (which you did [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.pigeons.biz/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG])

That's a nice wallpaper you have there. I like the pattern.
Don't worry, thanks anyway 😊.

Thanks so much, I love it too. It's also a resistant wallpaper (which is good with pigeons 😅 ).

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Posted 27th June 2019, 02:10 PM
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Something like this could work? If so, tomorrow in the morning (this morning mum left him alone for a few minutes) I will try to put it inside the home.

I have another concern: the weather here is really hot (it was a little less than 40 degrees this afternoon) even at night. The humidity is also really high. I don't have AC in the apartment. I fear the baby may overheat. What is the best thing to do? Should I use a fan or something similar in the room? Any idea?
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Posted 28th June 2019, 03:02 AM
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The parents left the baby alone so I put the new nest inside the home. I also threw away the dirty paper. The droppings of the baby look really good.
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Cuuuute!..........
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Posted 29th June 2019, 03:09 AM
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Cuuuute!..........
Thanks so much 😃!!!
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Posted 2nd July 2019, 06:40 AM
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The baby is growing well, he is getting bigger by the minute, he is also "heavy" lol 😊. The "feathers" are growing too!

I daily replace the nest material. I bought a package of straw for rabbits bedding. I think it's safer than the material coming from parks or woods (where there are many birds, people walk the dogs etc). I add to the straw some shredded paper. I didn't find a paper nest bowl at the agricultural supply store but the new nest material is working well, the legs look fine.

I'm attaching some photos 😊.
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They really are so cute at that age! Enjoy the little one!
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Posted 2nd July 2019, 11:11 AM
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Thanks Marina 😊! Yes, you are right, they really are so cute at that age!
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Posted 3rd July 2019, 07:13 AM
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It certainly looks comfortable.
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Posted 4th July 2019, 03:07 AM
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He is as comfortable as a pasha 😄!!!

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The baby is doing well, he has learned to walk and to perch! He often goes in and out of his home!

He saw his mum pecking at pickstone so he tried to peck at it too (without success, of course!).

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Posted 21st July 2019, 06:54 AM
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The baby is doing great!

Today he took his first bath!

The parents are teaching him to eat on his own; even if he is now able to eat seeds on his own (not yet of all sizes and shapes) they are still feeding him (especially dad). Today he drank for the first time on his own (in the past days I often saw mum drinking then going to the baby and giving him water).

He learned to fly (he is able to fly also on the top of the wardrobe) but the parents usually bring him back to his "territory" (handmade home + TV furniture). They are really protective, loving and attentive parents, they always monitor him. The touching thing is that they don't protect him from us (sometimes the baby flies on our heads, legs, etc), they really trust us!
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Posted 22nd July 2019, 01:27 PM
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Here you can see the baby in his house with mum 😍.
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