From TA:

"Here are a couple of pics ..

http://www.rims.net/arlene.htm


In the first pic the crop is empty .. in the second pic the crop is full .. notice the little "balloon" under the beak.

http://www.rims.net/babydove.htm "

 

When the crop is empty it feels flat.

 

If you have to ask this question you need to spend some time in your loft looking at your birds.

 

Gem I don't think you read the other thread were she told us she found these babies. I don't think she has a loft.
Not everyone that has pigeons has a loft and besides, some people have never had pigeons before and I think we need to be patient.

 

You are right I did not see any other thread. I was not being mean i still think unless this is day one and the baby is being hand feed we all need to be good students of the birds in our care.

 

Exactly, Ginger Pigeon. And then there are also those who have just never allowed their (house) birds to breed before, but have had pet birds for a while. There are a lot of different possible situations out there to think of before criticizing someone for asking a rather important question.

 

I sorry that you think that people being asked to spend time with their birds is a criticism it is not meant that way. Many people who have birds or just want to help a new found baby don't spend the time to get to know them or understand them and I think that wrong. Again this was the first thread I saw on this subject for this new person. I am very happy that they are helping the lost and injured bird in their care.

 

most are not aware that a pigeon even has a crop if they are not pigeon keepers... found ferals are allot to learn about from the new care giver... just take more time to read the post before putting in your concern... well try at least.lol... it is not always easy to know what is going on..

 

rpalmer--I'm proud of you
Tell it like is is and you will catch flack.
Hang in there-- Don't back down.
Just type the truth & your true feelings
Before long you will be on the " %^&%^$# " list like I am.

 

Please do not turn this thread into a slanging match. Someone asks for advice, and that's the point of the topic.