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Hekie Hekie is offline
Posted 17th June 2019, 03:05 PM
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Colombina, you are completely right about why Sabrina has lost her feathers! They are indeed broken, and the wasn't until your comment that I realised what is causing it. She is always more stressed than any other bird I have when I pick her up to change the paper in her cage. It is very likely that she has broken them that way (yes, all my pigeons are in cages - they are out when we go for a "walk" sometimes and very rarely in the house).

Damn, this is really difficult then, because it will take her a while to re-grow them. When I saw your message I contacted the only person I know here who takes pigeons to ask if she would consider having Sabrina. I haven't heard back from her. Her pigeons are loose. I will see if I can find someone else. What a shame, because if I had realised this earlier I could have done something and now her leg is perfect but her tail is terrible 😞

I've seen the de-stringing site before. I'm very glad you've done it a lot as well! Thanks for the vitamin information.
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Colombina Colombina is offline
Posted 18th June 2019, 11:06 AM
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Don't blame yourself...you are doing an excellent job with your birds and cats! Each of us always has something to learn.

I hope you can find soon someone who will take Sabrina.

If you have any other questions or need an advice, feel free to ask 😊!
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Posted 20th June 2019, 08:55 AM
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Thanks Colombina. I have not had any luck, unfortunately. I have spoken with one of my pigeon vets and he recommends sedating her and removing the damaged feathers. I am going to see if I can get an opinion from the other vet as well. If I do it, I will try and do it asap. However, I am still going to have a problem with how to avoid stressing out Sabrina and damaging the new feathers. What a situation.
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Posted 22nd June 2019, 05:46 AM
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I remember that even my vet told me about that option. My broken wing pigeon Apple needed surgery and then a bandage so the vet cut her wing feathers. In my case, as I was going to adopt her, I waited for them to fall down and grow back.
If you will opt for it remember to give her vitamins.

Unfortunately some birds really hate staying in a cage and get really nervous and stressed inside it..

You could maybe try to replace the paper in her cage in the dim light (close the blinds, curtains etc)...
Keeping the cage next to a window could make her more nervous.

What is the size of the cage? Maybe you could get a bigger one: even a rodents cage works well, it also has a place (I call it the "cellar" lol, I mean the place under the shelf) where she could hide when you are replacing the paper. You don't need a giant cage, something similar to this size:

Length 1,00 m
Height 0,50 m
Width 0,60 m

would be good.

https://www.zooplus.be/shop/rongeurs...e_lapin/149575


Another idea: could you keep her free in a room? You could buy a storage shelf (a cheap one - about €10/15 - is ok, you can find it in any do-it-yourself store) and put on it a box (like a plastic fruit crate) and her bowls. Just collect free paper around the city and cover what needed with it and a painting plastic sheets.

These are just a few ideas...

Keep me updated.
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Posted 23rd June 2019, 05:37 AM
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Thanks Colombina. She lost another feather overnight.

I can't keep her in a bedroom because I'm using the spare one for wild cats. Bad combination! Plus I have a friend visiting this week.

I'm going to look for cages where I can change the paper without picking her up. But she also needs to be sprayed with water a couple of times a day to encourage the growth of the feathers. I'll try and figure something out. The cage is big enough and I do have one bigger one, but I'll see if I can find a different style before moving her to the bigger one. I was trying to avoid buying another cage -I have so many now and storing them is becoming a real issue. Oh well!
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Posted 24th June 2019, 07:44 AM
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Hope you will find a good solution soon! Keep me updated!

I have a news, Hekie! It wasn't planned but a few days ago...my pigeons Caterina and Ben have become parents! The baby is absolutely lovely!
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Posted 24th June 2019, 11:29 AM
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I have something like this: https://www.sierra.com/green-pooch-p...processed=true

It will damage their feathers less, plus it’s cheap and easy to store.
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Posted 25th June 2019, 05:10 AM
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Oh that's a great idea, bootface! Thank you. That could work for kitten containment at some point, too. I nearly bought a collapsible cage yesterday but for now I've moved Sabrina to the bigger cage I have to see if it makes any difference. If she loses another feather, I will get one of these type of cages ready to order.

Aw, Colombina. What a surprise! A friend of mine recently had the same thing happen. I bet they're so cute <3
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Posted 25th June 2019, 10:20 AM
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So I'm not the only one who had a big surprise &#x1f605;..

Yes they are so lovely, I'm attaching a photo, I took it this morning &#x1f60a;.
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Posted 20th July 2019, 06:03 PM
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Awwww! I just saw the photo. I bet she's much bigger now but what a cutie. So blonde <3
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Posted 22nd July 2019, 06:35 AM
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Thanks so much, Hekie &#x1f603;. Yes, the baby is much bigger now, he is doing really well! You can see him (or her...) in the picture.

How is Sabrina doing? Did she lose all her broken feathers?

How are the cats doing?
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Posted 2nd August 2019, 04:43 PM
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Thanks so much, Hekie &#x1f603;. Yes, the baby is much bigger now, he is doing really well! You can see him (or her...) in the picture.

How is Sabrina doing? Did she lose all her broken feathers?

How are the cats doing?
Awwwww! What a change. It's like when a child is blond and then their hair turns brown <3 I'm so glad he's doing well.

I released Sabrina the day you posted your comment, actually! July 22. It was a real surprise. Her tail was growing slowly and I really wasn't sure what would happen. Then right before I went away for one week, it looked more promising. I got back, and she had a tail. I took her out for one walk to see how she went, and she was flying well so I released her the next morning. I would have preferred to do a couple more practice walks/flies but the risk she would lose another feather was too high. She was so stressed. I haven't seen her so I hope for the best, and that she has survived. I thought I saw her on Wednesday evening but I think it was her sister who I also recognise. Anyway, in the end she was able to be released.

On July 9 two days before my holiday I trapped the two kittens I knew existed but hadn't seen. They are brothers, and when I found them I trapped them both very quickly; it was great. Unfortunately I couldn't catch their mum. One of them is doing very well, the other one is very slow to socialise. But I still have a couple of weeks before I will send them to new homes, so I hope I can tame him better.

I have a baby dove. I will make another post about her. Her story is very sad.
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Posted 3rd August 2019, 12:27 PM
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Lol you are right, he is like a child changing hair color &#x1f605;.

I hope too that Sabrina is fine and maybe married with a good guy &#x1f60a;. Also I hope that the kittens will be happy in the new homes.
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Posted 3rd August 2019, 01:50 PM
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Haha, I think that Sabrina is too young for marriage! Thanks Colombina, for the good thoughts.
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Posted 4th August 2019, 02:59 AM
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Haha, I think that Sabrina is too young for marriage! Thanks Colombina, for the good thoughts.
Lol sorry but I don't remember how old is she &#x1f914;...

Anyway, I just want to say that I replied to your other post "Blind pigeons or doves", if you have any question feel free to ask.
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