HELP: thin, cold, lethargic homer - Pigeon-Talk
Pigeon-Talk  
Go Back   Pigeon-Talk > Pigeon Crisis - Emergency! > Sick or Injured Pigeon and Dove Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 24th November 2016, 08:11 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21
Exclamation

HELP: thin, cold, lethargic homer


I have a homing pigeon that ive had for avout a month now suddenly become sick. Hes a march hatch so hes not old. Hes cold to the touch, really thin, lethargic, amd has tannish runny stool. He has redish wattles and his cere is a bit pinky. Is there anything i can do for him? Ive been trying to keep him warm and at least keep some water in him. Ive been tube feeding water into him since he wont drink from the cup. I cant feed him anything chunky unfortunately. I gave him a small bit of wazine to see if thatd help with anything. I just started like 2 or so months ago with pigeons so im super new. In case theres anything i have that can help him, i have liquid penicillin, amoxicillin, corid, and wazine. I can also get doxycycline, and sheep wormer if needed.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
cwebster's Avatar
cwebster cwebster is offline
Posted 25th November 2016, 01:06 AM
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Location: Central Coast, CA
Posts: 6,258
Can you post a photo pls if him and his droppings?
Reply With Quote
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 25th November 2016, 04:10 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21


Heres what he looks like. He can still fly a little so hes not compeltly sapped.
Reply With Quote
 
cwebster's Avatar
cwebster cwebster is offline
Posted 25th November 2016, 07:09 PM
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Location: Central Coast, CA
Posts: 6,258
Can you put a heating pad for him that he can sit on or not as he chooses? He is a handsome bird. His poop looks runny. What does he eat?
Reply With Quote
Skyeking's Avatar
Skyeking Skyeking is offline
Posted 26th November 2016, 06:10 AM
Join Date: Jan 2003
Country: United States
Location: SE Coast Central Florida
Posts: 25,397
Do not administer meds without a diagnosis, the bird may just need an upsurge of good gut bacteria and need hand feeding.
Please do not force the bird to drink water, it may be way too much. Give bird a good pigeon seed mix and get the good gut bacteria growing by giving the bird a probiotic or even a good plain fat free yogurt will do. That will help Crowd out bad bacteria and get some weight on.
If the bird is not eating the bird needs to be hand fed to get weight on.



__________________
Reply With Quote
Jay3's Avatar
Jay3 Jay3 is offline
Posted 26th November 2016, 08:55 AM
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 29,809
I would do as Skyeking has said. Also a few drops of ACV in his water. For the flock it would be mixed at about one Tablespoon to a gallon of water a couple of times a week.
What do you mean by "I can't feed him anything chunky" ?
He is eating, though I cannot know how much. How do you know that he isn't drinking at all? Usually if they eat, they will drink. Please, as Sky mentioned, don't force the water.
__________________

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass........It's about learning to dance in the rain.
Reply With Quote
Chuck K Chuck K is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 10:22 AM
Join Date: Jan 2013
Country: United States
Location: Texas
Posts: 727

Going light


The condition is called going light by the old timers. It is the disease paratyphoid, and if left untreated he will continue to waste away until he dies.

As I see it you have two options. Take him to the vet or start a treatment. The best medication I have found to cure paratyphoid is Sulmet. It will no longer be available to the public as of January 1 2017, and it is hard to even find any now because people are buying it up. You might still be able to order some through one of the pigeon supplies like Foy's.
Reply With Quote
Jay3's Avatar
Jay3 Jay3 is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 11:45 AM
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 29,809
Chuck, you cannot be sure that paratyphoid is the problem. Could be many things, but without a vet check or dropping sample checked, no one can know for sure. Also, Baytril is usually the choice of drug for that.
If you wanted another sulfa drug then Trimethoprim/Sulfa would be a good choice, and good to have on hand.
__________________

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass........It's about learning to dance in the rain.

Last edited by Jay3; 27th November 2016 at 12:16 PM..
Reply With Quote
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 12:19 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21
Ok so i talked to a friend whos had pigeons since the 60s and he said that i might try worming. So i gave him a bit of wazine and holy moly he released a ton or round worms. Gross. Im thinking that was his issue because he seems to be doing a lot better since his worming.
Reply With Quote
Jay3's Avatar
Jay3 Jay3 is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 02:57 PM
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 29,809
Great! Now make sure you follow up again in about 12 days to 2 weeks. I'll bet that was it. Unless there is something else going on too. Watch him and let us know how he does. Will be wondering. Thanks.
Don't you worm your birds? If they fly outside, then most would worm spring and fall anyway.
__________________

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass........It's about learning to dance in the rain.
Reply With Quote
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 03:04 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21
Well i just wormed everyone after that scare. I just got the birds not long ago so im still learning.
Reply With Quote
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 27th November 2016, 03:05 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21
Ive only got two homers and two common (pet) birds that can go outside. Everyone else has to stay in since i dont want them to fly back to where i got them.
Reply With Quote
Jay3's Avatar
Jay3 Jay3 is offline
Posted 28th November 2016, 02:04 PM
Join Date: May 2008
Country: United States
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 29,809
When you worm, all should be wormed weather they go out or not. The worm eggs spread to others through the droppings.
If you are letting only a couple of birds out to fly, you are taking a chance. They are safer in numbers.
__________________

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass........It's about learning to dance in the rain.
Reply With Quote
wcloft's Avatar
wcloft wcloft is offline
Posted 28th November 2016, 02:09 PM
Join Date: Nov 2016
Country: United States
Location: Ashland Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay3 View Post
When you worm, all should be wormed weather they go out or not. The worm eggs spread to others through the droppings.
If you are letting only a couple of birds out to fly, you are taking a chance. They are safer in numbers.
Well as I said, everyone has been wormed and new birds will be wormed on arrival. I've got some more homers coming in soon.
Reply With Quote
cwebster's Avatar
cwebster cwebster is offline
Posted 28th November 2016, 04:26 PM
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Location: Central Coast, CA
Posts: 6,258
Hope you will quarantine the new birds.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cold, homer, lethargic, thin

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2000-2016 pigeons.biz