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  1. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Or is it one of those that are just mostly non visual? Like for instance I've read that het recessive red can actually deepen the color somewhat. And in the ball python world the "clown" morph is generally considered non visual when het, but the pros can often see it visually because it actually...
  2. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    I want to get a black wing gimpel pair to produce a sex linked clutch. So if the male is gold phase (homozygous pale dilute) and the female is bronze (intense, or wild type phase on the dilution locus). Then all male offspring will be phenotype bronze phase (but het pale), and all females will...
  3. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    One of my Ash yellow Sottobancas has a quite interesting molt. Her father is an Ash red while her mother is Blue/black. None of them (as far as I can see) show any sign of a milky gene, could this young female inherit this gene anyway? If this is what it is? Attached 2 pictures before molt taken...
  4. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi there :) Ash red (carrying dilute) cock x blue hen giving me an ash red cock split for blue, carrying dilute. This cock mated to a dilute hen could give me both ash red cocks and ash red hens. And all the cocks will also carry dilute? If he was mated to an ash red hen though, would all the...
  5. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi, This baby is out of a "red check?" and a blue check. It had short down. It does not look like a yellow. so I'm thinking it is a brown dilute. Help :). Thank you. Jerry
  6. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    anyone have any info on Extreme Dilute? My first baby from my Spanish Little Friar tumblers appears to be one. Hatching out he was lower vigor, little to no down, opened his eyes briefly pretty much right out of the egg, and has red pupils- evident even under his eyelids Pupil color has...
  7. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi everyone, I have a question about keeping intense color in my warsaw butterflies. I understand to pick mates by color intensity first and quality second, but I was wondering if their where any color pairings that could intensify a color that is fading in existing birds. I have been breeding...
  8. General Discussions
    New Member, new tumbler birds! Same old colour question!Genetics help Hi im new to the site, but not to keeping pigeons. Im 27 and raced with my dad all my life, got into 'fancy breeds' for age 8 onwards. I have always had a soft spot fot the west of England tumbler but sold up last year to...
  9. General Discussions
    Hi, does anyone have a picture of a dilute laveder? Ash-red spread thats dilute?
  10. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi Are these babies extreme dilute or ?? The Flights seem to have some color but all the other feathers on the babies look white or could be cream. The smaller one has darker flights. I purchased the parents so I do not know anything about them. Their first baby was Dun, but had more down...
  11. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    The attached pictures show a young cock bird. It's not a colour that I can show but it looks like it will be a nice bird, it stands well. I have included pictures of the parents. I was wondering if the flecking in the tail may be a clue. I need a yellow cock for the hen to breed more dilute...
  12. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Yes, the spelling is correct. Penguin. They've found a penguin that is an 'isabel' but I wonder if that would be the same as 'dilute' in pigeons. It looks the same as an isabel in finches. That is, the black is gone and replaced by a light brown or tan color. I've heard the term 'isabel'...
  13. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    How do you tell the difference between recessive red and spread red? Similarly, how do you tell the difference between recessive yellow and spread yellow? Still trying to figure things out. I'm 61 years, so I figure I've only got 40 years more to understand this! I'm studying as fast as I...
  14. Pigeons & Doves Wanted & For Sale
    These consist of two pairs. One pair is a Blue Bar Cock and a Cream Bar Hen. They are a sex-linked pair. All Blue Bars born are hens and all Cream Bars born are cocks. They must both carry the dilute gene for this to be happening or the cocks should be Ash Red. I also have a pair of Ash Reds...
  15. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi, Fiinally I have some youngsters with my nun pigeons and already a strange thing. One chick looks normal with brown markings. The other looks like a diluted form of that (khaki?) but it looks like the white/pied markings are extended over the edges with this one. As if the pied genes would...
  16. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    I'm so excited! :D I've had yellows before but not silvers. I had no idea their dad was split for dilute, but I guess I know now! These little girls are proof :) T-pattern and a check. The velvet looks like it's going to be more splashed than the check. They are racers, by the way.
  17. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    In my other thread, I listed sex-linked matings ONLY with the base colors (ash-red, blue, and brown). Here are the other sex-linked matings, using color modifiers on the sex chromosome. Dilute (includes any dilutes - ash-yellow, silver, khaki, dun, recessive yellow, suphur, etc): - Dilute cock...
  18. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Does anyone know if pigeons can produce 'dilutes' and are there any association between dilute birds,color,and genetic health concerns?
  19. Pigeons & Doves Wanted & For Sale
    I am looking for a couple pair of young Frillbacks, colors are fairly open. I prefer lighter colors, and would really like dilutes. Young unsexed birds are fine.
  20. Pigeon and Dove Genetics
    Hi all, I was wondering what the distinguishing characteristics are for dilute blues. I saw a few dilutes for sale on the web, but the pictures look plain blue to me. Except maybe that the flights are lighter. Anyone care to comment... As Becky said, the genetics forum needs some more posts...
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