[aarongreen123]

what are everyone's thoughts on the 4 in 1 treatments loft wide as a preventative measure? i'm not having any problems in the loft right now but traditionally this is the time of year i start to see them so i thought it may pay off. thoughts?
thanks!

 

[spirit wings]

what are everyone's thoughts on the 4 in 1 treatments loft wide as a preventative measure? i'm not having any problems in the loft right now but traditionally this is the time of year i start to see them so i thought it may pay off. thoughts?
thanks!

I have thought on this too, I think it is best to treat for a specific problem if it crops up, as if you over medicated or medicate when not needed ,could just make the illnesses stronger if it strikes as it can get immune, I think it is best to build your birds natrual immune system by having healthy practices and good feed. and treat as needed. now for breeders, I think they should be medicated for canker before breeding. JMO

 

[Lovebirds]

I also have never liked the 4 in 1's and 5 in 1's etc..........never used them. IMO, if you've got a problem, treat for THAT problem. If there isn't a problem, then don't go trying to fix something that ain't broke.
Now, having said that, I DO treat for cocci and canker before I start breeding, because these are two things that in the pigeons system and stress can blow it into a full blown sickness and breeding IS stressful on the pairs.
But what you'll find and get told I'm sure...............those people who DO use the 4 in 1's swear by it and those who don't, think it's a waste of money.

 

[UncleBuck]

I use a solution of chlorine bleach to clean my lofts and chicken and pig houses. I clean them, then spray a diluted solution on EVERYTHING until it is soaking wet, then I let it dry. (I have room to transfer my birds and animals to other areas when it comes to cleaning, so they are not exposed to the bleach.)
I never use a "Catch all" medication, on advice from my vet. Prevent the problem, but if something arrives, treat the problem.
Years ago terramycin was the drug of choice for many people. But it was overused and used in an incorrect manner and the drug is no longer as effective as it was even 15 years ago.
As A Side Note: I get so mad when I see people saying, use this drug, use that drug, this drug is best an will kill anything, etc... But people do not tell you how to use it. If the manufacture recommends using it for five days, you need to use it for five days. Too many people use it for four days, because the animal is looking better and decide to save some money and not treat for the fifth day. This is what causes these virus and bacteria to become immune to the drug.
These companies spent millions of dollars researching their drugs and they want to make money off of them. If we misuse the drugs, they have to spend millions more to develop another drug, and in the end, we pay for it. Anyway, enough of my rant. Thanks.

 

[Alamo]

Like the folks said above,if the birds are looking good,leave them alone...If they are racing pigeons,and you are going to race them,the 4 in 1 and 5 in 1 are used by many flyers to maintain healthy pigeons,because they are mixed up with pigeons from other lofts..If you have fancy pigeons,or homers that are not raced,you are better off if you have some meds that are not mixed in together with each other...As is the 4 in 1 etc...Keep the meds in your fridge,and they will last a long time...Clorex in the water,6 drops to a gallon,2 or 3 days per week,helps kill any germs that might be around...When using clorex,do not put anything else in the water...If you give vitamins,or probiotics etc,no Clorex should be given with anything else you might put in the water.....Alamo

 

[Ed]

well said uncle buck
HEAR HEAR

 

[Charis]

Aaron...it is a waste of money. It doesn't have enough of any one medication to do anything but build a resistance to the medications themselves.

 

[aarongreen123]

thanks

thanks guys, doing all the things i have had recomended to me here so homefully they stay healthy.

 

[Bezz]

breeding, because these are two things that in the pigeons system and stress can blow it into a full blown sickness and breeding IS stressful on the pairs.
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Hi Lovebirds

I would like to disagree with you on the quoted statement.

Whenever birds are looked after well, and they start breeding, it looks like they hit SUPERFORM.
There feet are red as roses, there wattels are white as snow, they shine like never before and have the vigour that you would pray your racers must have.

To me this is fun, not stress.

Only my observations and thoughts.

Bezz

 

[LUCKYT]

Uncle buck. I agree with you 1000% We have the same problems going on with the human Meds. also. Well said uncle Buck. Dave

 

[LUCKYT]

Bezz, the prebreeding Meds. are the standard in the group of flyers i flew with. I only used it one season. I agree with you breeding, unless the loft is over crowded is not nearly as Stressful as Racing. My Birds always seem happier, and healthier, when they are breeding. And i agree with you on the SUPER FORM statement, seems i can not get some people to understand what the difference in condition, and FORM is. FORM, is SUPER condition! LOL!
Good point. Dave