Cool!! We'll be watching the updates and results. Good luck to BOTH of you. May the best bird win...........
9 Points Loft is #1 at the Winners Cup
Imagine my shock, when I reviewed the list of pros competeing this year at Bill Hatchers Winners Cup One Loft Race, and none other then Dan Detweiler aka "Learning" here at Pigeon Talk, and owner of 9 Points Racing Loft, is listed right at the top of the Breeders List !! I would not be surprised if at the end of the series of races, that he ends up #1 on the list of winners ! 
List All Breeders
Bid Web Name Contact State
1 103 9 POINTS RACING 9 POINTS RACING
2 1 ABC-RACE BILL HATCHER OK
3 67 ANTHONY SORRENTINO ANTHONY SORRENTINO
4 6 APC LOFT GEORGE RANKIN
5 49 AZTEC LOFT ALEX RUIZ
6 53 B AND R SYNDICATE RANDY GOODPASTURE
7 7 BILL NESLER BILL NESLER
8 8 BILL RIXEY BILL RIXEY
9 80 BILL TADLOCK BILL TADLOCK MD
10 83 BILL TADLOCK BILL TADLOCK
11 21 BLUESTREAK L ADAMS
12 51 BRAD BEARY LOFT BRAD BEARY
13 52 BRIAN WILKERSON BRIAN WILKERSON
14 58 BYRON WEAVER BYRON WEAVER
15 94 CARAPSTER SYNDICATE CARAPSTER SYNDICATE
16 36 CAREY TILSON CAREY TILSON
17 84 CAROLINA SYNDICATE CAROLINA SYNDICATE NC
18 95 CBS PIGEON CBS PIGEON
19 30 CECIL ROMERO WEBEONE
20 77 CERTAIN LOFTS USA NOEL CERTAIN
21 34 CRAZY AL CRAZY AL
22 11 DAN ROMANSKI DAN ROMANSKI
23 43 DAVE HARRETT DAVE HARRETT
24 19 DAVE PETERSEN DAVE PETERSEN
25 71 DAVE SARGENT DAVE SARGENT
26 40 DAVID CLAUSING DAVID CLAUSING
27 70 DELMONTE BROS. MARIO DELMONTE
28 44 DOUBLT T LOFTS TOM/TIM BEARD
29 29 EAST WIND LOFT EAST WIND LOFT
30 101 EL DORADO DONALD PETERSON
31 50 FAHY ROBINSON FAHY ROBINSON
32 81 FLORIDIAN LOFT FLORIDIAN LOFT FL
33 74 FRED STEPHENS FRED STEPHENS
34 9 GARY BERTAGNOLLI GARY BERTAGNOLLI
35 38 GENE TENBRINK GENE TENBRINK
36 28 GENE WILLIAMS GENE WILLIAMS
37 69 GOLDCOAST LOFT JAMIE LIPSETT
38 35 HAPYCO / PATTERSON CHIC BROOKS / LONNIE PTRSON
39 48 HUTCHINSLOFT.COM DANNY HUTCHINS
40 59 JIM LEGGIERI JIM LEGGIERI
41 97 JIM TRACY LOFT JIM TRACY LOFT
42 33 K.O.M. LOFT DAVE GALLAGHER
43 39 KEVIN L. LOFT KEVIN L. LOFT
44 37 KOLVENBAG AND ENNIS KOLVENBAG AND ENNIS
45 87 LONE STAR LOFT CL GAGE TX
46 46 LONNIE PATTERSON LONNIE PATTERSON
47 61 LUDWIG LOFT TIM LUDWIG
48 3 MARIAN MUCHA MARIAN MUCHA
49 75 MARIAN TALOI MARIAN TALOI
50 60 MARK TEAL MARK TEAL
51 102 MARTIN LIUVENT MARTIN LIUVENT
52 13 MATT WIESBROCK MATT WIESBROCK
53 14 MECHAM AND CHRISTOPHER ALLAN MECHAN/KEN CHRIST.
54 76 NICK KOWALCHUK NICK KOWALCHUK
55 22 PAUL WALSH LOFT PAUL WALSH
56 25 POLISH PRINCE TEAM POLISH PRINCE TEAM
57 42 PROPIGEON LOFT JOEL ALVAREZ
58 24 R AND S LOFT ROBERT FEWIN
59 47 ROGER AND FRANK ROGER MORTVEDT
60 56 ROGER HARLIN ROGER HARLIN
61 99 ROGER MORTVEDT ROGER MORTVEDT
62 31 RUSTY WILLIAMS RUSTY WILLIAMS CA
63 64 SHANE McCOY SHANE McCOY
64 100 SIERRA RANCH STEVE STERCHI
65 86 SKIP WALSTON SKIP WALSTON
66 15 SMITH FAMILY LOFT USA WARREN SMITH
67 93 SOCWA Boys SOCWA Boys
68 96 STAN GEORGE STAN GEORGE
69 23 STEPHEN FURLONGE STEPHEN FURLONGE
70 66 STEVE MISTLER STEVE MISTLER
71 63 STEVE WILLOUGHBY STEVE WILLOUGHBY
72 12 TERRY BROOKS TERRY BROOKS
73 72 THE GOLDEN TEAM SERGIO LOPEZ
74 82 TIMBERLINE SPEED TIMBERLINE SPEED TX
75 16 TIMBERLINE SPEED TIMBERLINE SPEED
76 98 TOM & INGE TOM & INGE
77 89 TRANQUILITY LOFT BOB N SARA
78 18 TWO BE WON BILL ENSIGN/VIC DEBROUWER
79 26 WALSTON / TILSON WALSTON / TILSON
80 85 WALSTON/TILSON WALSTON/TILSON NC
81 57 WIN PHAM WIN PHAM
82 62 WING-N-IT LOFT MIKE DELONG
83 2 WINNERS CUP USA BILL HATCHER OK
Check it out for yourself !
http://www.winnerscupusa.com/
List All Breeders
Bid Web Name Contact State
1 103 9 POINTS RACING 9 POINTS RACING
2 1 ABC-RACE BILL HATCHER OK
3 67 ANTHONY SORRENTINO ANTHONY SORRENTINO
4 6 APC LOFT GEORGE RANKIN
5 49 AZTEC LOFT ALEX RUIZ
6 53 B AND R SYNDICATE RANDY GOODPASTURE
7 7 BILL NESLER BILL NESLER
8 8 BILL RIXEY BILL RIXEY
9 80 BILL TADLOCK BILL TADLOCK MD
10 83 BILL TADLOCK BILL TADLOCK
11 21 BLUESTREAK L ADAMS
12 51 BRAD BEARY LOFT BRAD BEARY
13 52 BRIAN WILKERSON BRIAN WILKERSON
14 58 BYRON WEAVER BYRON WEAVER
15 94 CARAPSTER SYNDICATE CARAPSTER SYNDICATE
16 36 CAREY TILSON CAREY TILSON
17 84 CAROLINA SYNDICATE CAROLINA SYNDICATE NC
18 95 CBS PIGEON CBS PIGEON
19 30 CECIL ROMERO WEBEONE
20 77 CERTAIN LOFTS USA NOEL CERTAIN
21 34 CRAZY AL CRAZY AL
22 11 DAN ROMANSKI DAN ROMANSKI
23 43 DAVE HARRETT DAVE HARRETT
24 19 DAVE PETERSEN DAVE PETERSEN
25 71 DAVE SARGENT DAVE SARGENT
26 40 DAVID CLAUSING DAVID CLAUSING
27 70 DELMONTE BROS. MARIO DELMONTE
28 44 DOUBLT T LOFTS TOM/TIM BEARD
29 29 EAST WIND LOFT EAST WIND LOFT
30 101 EL DORADO DONALD PETERSON
31 50 FAHY ROBINSON FAHY ROBINSON
32 81 FLORIDIAN LOFT FLORIDIAN LOFT FL
33 74 FRED STEPHENS FRED STEPHENS
34 9 GARY BERTAGNOLLI GARY BERTAGNOLLI
35 38 GENE TENBRINK GENE TENBRINK
36 28 GENE WILLIAMS GENE WILLIAMS
37 69 GOLDCOAST LOFT JAMIE LIPSETT
38 35 HAPYCO / PATTERSON CHIC BROOKS / LONNIE PTRSON
39 48 HUTCHINSLOFT.COM DANNY HUTCHINS
40 59 JIM LEGGIERI JIM LEGGIERI
41 97 JIM TRACY LOFT JIM TRACY LOFT
42 33 K.O.M. LOFT DAVE GALLAGHER
43 39 KEVIN L. LOFT KEVIN L. LOFT
44 37 KOLVENBAG AND ENNIS KOLVENBAG AND ENNIS
45 87 LONE STAR LOFT CL GAGE TX
46 46 LONNIE PATTERSON LONNIE PATTERSON
47 61 LUDWIG LOFT TIM LUDWIG
48 3 MARIAN MUCHA MARIAN MUCHA
49 75 MARIAN TALOI MARIAN TALOI
50 60 MARK TEAL MARK TEAL
51 102 MARTIN LIUVENT MARTIN LIUVENT
52 13 MATT WIESBROCK MATT WIESBROCK
53 14 MECHAM AND CHRISTOPHER ALLAN MECHAN/KEN CHRIST.
54 76 NICK KOWALCHUK NICK KOWALCHUK
55 22 PAUL WALSH LOFT PAUL WALSH
56 25 POLISH PRINCE TEAM POLISH PRINCE TEAM
57 42 PROPIGEON LOFT JOEL ALVAREZ
58 24 R AND S LOFT ROBERT FEWIN
59 47 ROGER AND FRANK ROGER MORTVEDT
60 56 ROGER HARLIN ROGER HARLIN
61 99 ROGER MORTVEDT ROGER MORTVEDT
62 31 RUSTY WILLIAMS RUSTY WILLIAMS CA
63 64 SHANE McCOY SHANE McCOY
64 100 SIERRA RANCH STEVE STERCHI
65 86 SKIP WALSTON SKIP WALSTON
66 15 SMITH FAMILY LOFT USA WARREN SMITH
67 93 SOCWA Boys SOCWA Boys
68 96 STAN GEORGE STAN GEORGE
69 23 STEPHEN FURLONGE STEPHEN FURLONGE
70 66 STEVE MISTLER STEVE MISTLER
71 63 STEVE WILLOUGHBY STEVE WILLOUGHBY
72 12 TERRY BROOKS TERRY BROOKS
73 72 THE GOLDEN TEAM SERGIO LOPEZ
74 82 TIMBERLINE SPEED TIMBERLINE SPEED TX
75 16 TIMBERLINE SPEED TIMBERLINE SPEED
76 98 TOM & INGE TOM & INGE
77 89 TRANQUILITY LOFT BOB N SARA
78 18 TWO BE WON BILL ENSIGN/VIC DEBROUWER
79 26 WALSTON / TILSON WALSTON / TILSON
80 85 WALSTON/TILSON WALSTON/TILSON NC
81 57 WIN PHAM WIN PHAM
82 62 WING-N-IT LOFT MIKE DELONG
83 2 WINNERS CUP USA BILL HATCHER OK
Check it out for yourself !
http://www.winnerscupusa.com/
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Believe me, if this list looks like this on race day it will truely be a miracle! Not that I will complain.
More likely is that you will see those Smith Family birds fighting for the top spot. I am just trying to learn as much about my breeding program as I can. We'll see if my southern red neck birds can hold their own!
Dan
aka 9 Points Racing Loft
Not that I will complain.More likely is that you will see those Smith Family birds fighting for the top spot. I am just trying to learn as much about my breeding program as I can. We'll see if my southern red neck birds can hold their own!
Dan
aka 9 Points Racing Loft
Congratulations!!
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Its gonna be a tough race series looking at all the competitors good luck to both of you!! May you both have many first on the drops!!!!!!
Regardless of race results - Dan is a Champion in the making !
I went back and corrected what I could, but the title of the thread can not be changed.
I just get a warm fuzzy feeling, when I see you joined this site in May 2006, and at that point, the idea of getting back into racing pigeons was still just an idea in the planning stages. You had no pigeons, no loft, and in fact just a yard with a bunch of trees that would need to be removed.
We all read your posts, and looked at the pictures as you progressed. If I'm not mistaken, it took more then two years before you had the design down, and the loft built. And we followed that progress week after week after week.
And now, it's like you are all grown up and competing on a professional level, with your name up in lights. IMO you have made a giant leap from a first year rookie in your club and combine, and now you have stepped up to the plate, and grabbed the bull by the horns. You are in competition now with various
syndicates and some hard core professionals, some of the best from around the United States.
I know in your modest and quiet way, you would have preferred to compete without any attention or fanfare. Perhaps you feel like you did at your first music recital in front of a crowd of people. The natural tendency is to have sweaty palms and butter flies in your stomach. And that nagging dreadful fear of some form of failure, or mistake, which could lead to public humiliation. From my perspective, life is full of challenges, and to the perspective Champion, the greatest challenge is over coming that fear, and stepping up to the plate. You could very well strike out. And at the end of this series of races, most of the participants will not be in the Winners Circle. You, or I guess the correct thing to say is your birds, may be winners, or they may turn out to be something less. They could all get lost off the landing board, or fail to return from a training toss.
But, in my book, you will be a winner regardless of what your four birds do. Because you were willing to stand up to the challenge, and not let fear of failure keep you from trying. I'm not a baseball fan, but I'm of the understanding that Babe Ruth made a lot of strike outs. Percentage wise I guess most of his attempts were failures. People don't remember all the failed attempts, they remember the successes. Many people will never see success, not because they lack the skill or the ability, but they are afraid to step up to the plate, in front of the crowd, and take the risk that they may have to endure a failure. In that regard, you have already overcome that hurdle, and are on your way to great racing success in the future.
I am proud of you, as many on this site are, in having shared in your progress to this milestone in your career.
I hope your birds whip them all, every last one of them !!
I just hope your birds will be gentle with the "pretty " little birds my wife picked out, if yours happen to end up in the same crate.
I'm sorry, in my excitement and haste, I referred to your racing organization as " 9 Points Loft" when it should have been "9 Points Racing Loft".Believe me, if this list looks like this on race day it will truely be a miracle!
More likely is that you will see those Smith Family birds fighting for the top spot. I am just trying to learn as much about my breeding program as I can. We'll see if my southern red neck birds can hold their own!
Dan
aka 9 Points Racing Loft
I went back and corrected what I could, but the title of the thread can not be changed.
I just get a warm fuzzy feeling, when I see you joined this site in May 2006, and at that point, the idea of getting back into racing pigeons was still just an idea in the planning stages. You had no pigeons, no loft, and in fact just a yard with a bunch of trees that would need to be removed.
We all read your posts, and looked at the pictures as you progressed. If I'm not mistaken, it took more then two years before you had the design down, and the loft built. And we followed that progress week after week after week.
And now, it's like you are all grown up and competing on a professional level, with your name up in lights. IMO you have made a giant leap from a first year rookie in your club and combine, and now you have stepped up to the plate, and grabbed the bull by the horns. You are in competition now with various
syndicates and some hard core professionals, some of the best from around the United States.
I know in your modest and quiet way, you would have preferred to compete without any attention or fanfare. Perhaps you feel like you did at your first music recital in front of a crowd of people. The natural tendency is to have sweaty palms and butter flies in your stomach. And that nagging dreadful fear of some form of failure, or mistake, which could lead to public humiliation. From my perspective, life is full of challenges, and to the perspective Champion, the greatest challenge is over coming that fear, and stepping up to the plate. You could very well strike out. And at the end of this series of races, most of the participants will not be in the Winners Circle. You, or I guess the correct thing to say is your birds, may be winners, or they may turn out to be something less. They could all get lost off the landing board, or fail to return from a training toss.
But, in my book, you will be a winner regardless of what your four birds do. Because you were willing to stand up to the challenge, and not let fear of failure keep you from trying. I'm not a baseball fan, but I'm of the understanding that Babe Ruth made a lot of strike outs. Percentage wise I guess most of his attempts were failures. People don't remember all the failed attempts, they remember the successes. Many people will never see success, not because they lack the skill or the ability, but they are afraid to step up to the plate, in front of the crowd, and take the risk that they may have to endure a failure. In that regard, you have already overcome that hurdle, and are on your way to great racing success in the future.
I am proud of you, as many on this site are, in having shared in your progress to this milestone in your career.
I hope your birds whip them all, every last one of them !!
I just hope your birds will be gentle with the "pretty " little birds my wife picked out, if yours happen to end up in the same crate.
Hey......"red neck" birds are DA Bomb!! LOLBelieve me, if this list looks like this on race day it will truely be a miracle!
More likely is that you will see those Smith Family birds fighting for the top spot. I am just trying to learn as much about my breeding program as I can. We'll see if my southern red neck birds can hold their own!
Dan
aka 9 Points Racing Loft
I have faith in you. I think you'll do well.
Well, I am humbled by Warren's comments. It has been a long road and these first few attempts will be interesting to say the least. I think one reason Warren is excited is that my 4 bird team represents a lot of the blood that is currently in his loft in York. If my birds enjoy any success at all, the truth is that they are the result of the years of work Warren put into his breeding stock.
Now, having said that, if they are all lost off the landing board in training then it's all my fault...right Warren!
Dan
Now, having said that, if they are all lost off the landing board in training then it's all my fault...right Warren!
Dan
LOL! Dave
DaveNow your "learning" !.......Now, having said that, if they are all lost off the landing board in training then it's all my fault...right Warren!
Dan
One of my favorite past times, is coming up with some new good excuses !
Now, if my birds do poorly, I already have a ready made perfect excuse ! My wife picked the birds !!!!
And if people roll their eyes, I can always fall back on blaming the poor results on some ole favorites passed down by club members past and present !
The race organizer, the race format, the liberator, the weather, east winds, north winds, south winds, west winds, or no winds at all. Sun spots, cell phones, US Air Force "secret" communication freqencies, golbal warming, just bad luck, and well....you get the picture.......
Now of course if the bird(s) win, the birds never get the credit, it is the genius of the breeder...er...uh...unless the breeder lives south of the Maryland line, and then of course....then it was the breeder before him.
If the breeder lives north of the Maryland Line, then of course all the credit must stay in Pa., as the rule above does not apply, if the previous breeder lives outside York County.......that last one I thought was some sort of AU rule, until a few years ago.
And if by some chance, my birds make a good showing of themselves, no body can give my wife Karen any of the credit, because I had to crate them all up for her to look at, and then put the rest all away...and then ship them in a box. So, it would only be "fair" if I then got most...er ...all the credit. Because those are the house club rules.
See why pigeon racing is so much fun ?
G
will have to keep an eye on these races when they come about , should be exciting
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