well Marina, yes and no! I think perhaps she is now growing up to hate the tube feeding.... it seems behavioral because it seems to be the tube that makes her gag now. Yesterday she gagged when she saw the syringe! (I’ve tube fed her since mid September without any problems, so it’s so strange that she hates it so much now, but I’m taking that as a good sign that she will be more motivated to try to eat!) the gagging has reduced for sure, but not stopped just yet.Has her swallowing improved on the Nystatin?
Hi! What are you referring to with her eye?So glad she is recovering well!!!
Her improvement is great! As far as the eye is concerned, this may take some time to heal, or it may be permament unfortunately, depending on involvement or damage. She is young so she should heal quickly!
Found some! Okay so the first is after part of the pox fell off, and her eye was unobstructed. (It was covered for a good few weeks and looked terrible before this! As you can see, her eye was completely cloudy. At this point I was concerned she was blind and took her to the vets, the antibiotic drops did the trick and the cloudiness started to dissipate! The second picture is when she managed to rip the pox off (a few days after) hence the rip in the eyelid. The third picture was a little while later and I felt the eyelid was going to heal really nicely. At that point the cloudiness was almost gone entirely,... but sadly that’s the best it’s looked since! More often than not the eyelid where it’s ripped is red and inflamed. I’ll try and get a good picture today in the sunlight!Hi! What are you referring to with her eye?
the eye that’s blind, I understand from the vet has no chance of change...
The other eye? Seems to be getting better in a really tiny way, when I study the pictures! I notice she rubs her face on her shoulder a lot, which often irritates the membrane around her eye that ripped when the pox came off. It looks great some days and quite irritated on other days. She’s growing tiny little feathers in the bald spots that were covered in pox, so I’m pretty pleased at her healing already! I’ll try and find pics of her eyes during the process so maybe you can see the healing too!
If there is a yeast overgrowth in the crop or proventriculus, the nystatin will definately help. The swelling will subside if there was a lesion interfering with digestion. Maybe she is not accustomed to peas, and was overstuffed. She looks remarkably better and the cloudiness in the eye should go away over time. Make sure she is receiving a little vitamin E and C in her vitamins as this helps with eye damage. Like I said earlier, she is quite young and will heal and recover much more quickly than an older pigeon.So many updates, sorry for the overload!
I decided to try her with peas today. I thought something with a shape but is soft would perhaps be easier than seeds ... she had 13 peas before she got fed up, (i fed her but she started to refuse) and then shortly after she vomited 5 up. Im not going to continue with the peas.... I’ll see if the 7 days of nystatin stops the vomiting.
She’s been gagging/retching for almost a week now, with everything. She tries to bring the formula up but can’t because it’s liquid, I think the only reason she brought the peas up is because they are solid. (She was bringing up seeds too before I stopped giving any solids).If there is a yeast overgrowth in the crop or proventriculus, the nystatin will definately help. The swelling will subside if there was a lesion interfering with digestion. Maybe she is not accustomed to peas, and was overstuffed. She looks remarkably better and the cloudiness in the eye should go away over time. Make sure she is receiving a little vitamin E and C in her vitamins as this helps with eye damage. Like I said earlier, she is quite young and will heal and recover much more quickly than an older pigeon.
Oh look at her what a little sweetheartView attachment 96394
she’s definitely gagging less today... but it seems to be the tube that induces it, not the food. I’ll take that as a good sign. I wonder if anyone else has experience with apigeon that was very sick and needed to be tube fed for months. I would love to hear they can learn to eat again!
She can’t even pick a tiny weeny seed up, let alone a pea! She’s also ZERO percent interested in them... even when I’m fussing with them and trying to get her interested. She will peck at seeds but only when she’s sassy, she doesn’t seem to understand it. I’m just gonna be patient. When I hold the food in my fingers (seeds or peas) she ignores them 100%. She’ll often turn her head or her body! In the morning I try really hard to get her to peck at seeds as I assume she’ll be hungry but she is never hungry, noticeably! She just sleeps or preens!That's quite a big mouth for such a young baby.... Maybe you should try the peas again. They learn so quickly to eat the peas by themselves. Feed her a few in the morning, then tease her by holding the pea between your fingers in front of her. She might start pecking and just end up grabbing one and swallowing it. Then you can start leaving some peas with her and add some small seeds.