Did you ever post pictures of the first clutch? What do they look like now?
Black/Grizzle 2nd round
Fastpitch here--
This pairs 2nd round hatched out on the 5th so I will take some pics. when I band them. I didn't get pics of the last baby before I gave him to a friend, but I plan on keeping these two for the race team. They seem to have alot more "fuzz" on them so it will be interesting to see what they will look like.
Here's Mom and Dad
This pairs 2nd round hatched out on the 5th so I will take some pics. when I band them. I didn't get pics of the last baby before I gave him to a friend, but I plan on keeping these two for the race team. They seem to have alot more "fuzz" on them so it will be interesting to see what they will look like.
Here's Mom and Dad
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"Fastpitch here--
This pairs 2nd round hatched out on the 5th so I will take some pics. when I band them. I didn't get pics of the last baby before I gave him to a friend, but I plan on keeping these two for the race team."
doesnt look like he had time to get pics of the first clutch
This pairs 2nd round hatched out on the 5th so I will take some pics. when I band them. I didn't get pics of the last baby before I gave him to a friend, but I plan on keeping these two for the race team."
doesnt look like he had time to get pics of the first clutch
Can't wait to see pics of the new babies! I'l bet that color crossing will be VERY pretty!!!
Lol...I totally missed that..."Fastpitch here--
This pairs 2nd round hatched out on the 5th so I will take some pics. when I band them. I didn't get pics of the last baby before I gave him to a friend, but I plan on keeping these two for the race team."
doesnt look like he had time to get pics of the first clutch
Fastpitch here--
I did take pics of the first baby, they were on another thread. I had pics of him up until he was about 15 days old. But I forgot to take any when I gave him to my buddy.
I did take pics of the first baby, they were on another thread. I had pics of him up until he was about 15 days old. But I forgot to take any when I gave him to my buddy.
I have no clue.....they should be MottledI have never heard of black grizzle before. Out of curiosity, would you know if your breed's grizzle is different from the famous "Frillback grizzle"?
There's your typical grizzle, like these:
(Homozygous grizzle, or stork) From this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/2008YoungBirdTeam#5224136472796927314
To this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/January19th2009#5293143117918898130
Also this one is a stork http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/January10th2009#5289850601663048066
(Heterozygous grizzle) http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/May15th2008#5200672884764646482
Tiger grizzle (mottle):
From this http://lh3.ggpht.com/_cb4AeStpOZI/SELx9ACszrI/AAAAAAAAA3w/uig0TBF6b2c/s720/red homers 003.jpg
To this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/August15th2008#5234774063816388754
And undergrizzle:
http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/OldBirdsAndOtherFliersInTheLoft#5224123972906376818
I don't have any good pictures of undergrizzle. This bird only has it in the bars on the wings (look really close and you'll see the color washed out near the center of the feather). It can happen on the tail and flights too. It pretty much just bleaches out the color near the beginning on the feather, leaving the end colored.
Homozygous blue grizzles can moult out to become "stork mark/grizzles", and/or can look a lot like the tiger grizzle "mottles". But storks always keep the dark flights and tail. A good way to tell tiger grizzle from the other grizzles is that usually the bird will look more normal colored, then moult out more and more solid white feathers. Not the salt and pepper looking feathers, but more solid ones.
I don't know which of those is the frillback kind, or if it's a combination...or what?
(Homozygous grizzle, or stork) From this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/2008YoungBirdTeam#5224136472796927314
To this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/January19th2009#5293143117918898130
Also this one is a stork http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/January10th2009#5289850601663048066
(Heterozygous grizzle) http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/May15th2008#5200672884764646482
Tiger grizzle (mottle):
From this http://lh3.ggpht.com/_cb4AeStpOZI/SELx9ACszrI/AAAAAAAAA3w/uig0TBF6b2c/s720/red homers 003.jpg
To this http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/August15th2008#5234774063816388754
And undergrizzle:
http://picasaweb.google.com/MaryOfExeter/OldBirdsAndOtherFliersInTheLoft#5224123972906376818
I don't have any good pictures of undergrizzle. This bird only has it in the bars on the wings (look really close and you'll see the color washed out near the center of the feather). It can happen on the tail and flights too. It pretty much just bleaches out the color near the beginning on the feather, leaving the end colored.
Homozygous blue grizzles can moult out to become "stork mark/grizzles", and/or can look a lot like the tiger grizzle "mottles". But storks always keep the dark flights and tail. A good way to tell tiger grizzle from the other grizzles is that usually the bird will look more normal colored, then moult out more and more solid white feathers. Not the salt and pepper looking feathers, but more solid ones.
I don't know which of those is the frillback kind, or if it's a combination...or what?
Fastpitch here--
Becky you know how the last one didn't have much "fuzz" and you said it would most likely have alot of white on it. These have alot of "fuzz".I'll take pic's when I band them, of course there's not much to see yet. That should be Friday.
Becky you know how the last one didn't have much "fuzz" and you said it would most likely have alot of white on it. These have alot of "fuzz".I'll take pic's when I band them, of course there's not much to see yet. That should be Friday.
Well, since both parents don't have grizzle, they can be heterozygous grizzles, which will have more color, explaining the fuzz. Or they might end up moulting out to be more white.
1st. pictures
Fastpitch here--
well here are the 1st. pics of the babies I'll take some again in about a week.
The one pic. is a little "fuzzy"
Fastpitch here--
well here are the 1st. pics of the babies I'll take some again in about a week.
The one pic. is a little "fuzzy"
How old are the little ones? They look to be 5-6 days old.
Fastpitch here--
They are 8 days old today, they were born on the 5th.
They are 8 days old today, they were born on the 5th.
Is the second picture of the single baby the same baby on the left in the first picture? If so, I'd keep an eye on it. It seems a good bit behind the other one.Fastpitch here--
They are 8 days old today, they were born on the 5th.
Yes it is, I've been keeping a check on him . He's a little smaller but not as much as the picture makes it look.Is the second picture of the single baby the same baby on the left in the first picture? If so, I'd keep an eye on it. It seems a good bit behind the other one.
Well, I figured you were watching it close. It's not so much the size and the developement rate. One's got feathers and the other don't. Anyway....I just thought I'd mention it. I've seen the same here a few times and everything worked out just fine.Yes it is, I've been keeping a check on him . He's a little smaller but not as much as the picture makes it look.
New Picture
Just went and checked on everyone and sent Jessica back for the camera. They are feed and happy.
Just went and checked on everyone and sent Jessica back for the camera. They are feed and happy.
Happy looking family you got there! Mom is beautiful!
Renee, They do seem to be a little slower getting their feathers....any reason for it? Here they are at 12 days.
Master Becky,
Awesome pictures and explanation as always! Thank you!
Fastpitch_dad,
Nice looking birds. That black pigeon is eye-catching!
Awesome pictures and explanation as always! Thank you!
Fastpitch_dad,
Nice looking birds. That black pigeon is eye-catching!
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