Dead in the Basket

1151 Views 14 Replies 7 Participants Last post by Skyeking, May 15, 2009

Bezz

Discussion Starter · May 9, 2009

Hi all

Yesterday i noticed one of my birds looking like it had hurt its one
foot.
I checked it for bruises but could not find something wrong.

All were basketed for 140km tos today and after liberation the
courier phoned me and told me that one of my birds was dead in the
basket.
After giving me the number i remembered that it was the one with the
seemingly sore foot.

The other birds came well from the toss, no problems at all.

Has anybody got an idea what could have gone wrong with this bird,
dying within 24hours?

Bezz

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Skyeking

· #2 · May 9, 2009

No idea.....but perhaps it might have been an infection or injury or even a disease like paratyphoid, and the undo stress didn't help.

I can't get over the fact, of why would you even send a bird out on a toss/race when you knew it was injured or sick??

whitesnmore

· #3 · May 9, 2009

In the states it is against the AU rules to ship a bird that is sick or injured. One could get banned from racing for doing this. It sounds like it could have been paratyphoid which could infect the other birds in the race. I hope I am wrong and I also hope you have learned something from this

Bezz

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 9, 2009

Trees Gray said:
I can't get over the fact, of why would you even send a bird out on a toss/race when you knew it was injured or sick??

When i basketed the birds all seemed to be fine, i could not see anything wrong with it!

Bezz

Lovebirds

· #5 · May 9, 2009

Trees Gray said:
No idea.....but perhaps it might have been an infection or injury or even a disease like paratyphoid, and the undo stress didn't help.

I can't get over the fact, of why would you even send a bird out on a toss/race when you knew it was injured or sick??

whitesnmore said:
In the states it is against the AU rules to ship a bird that is sick or injured. One could get banned from racing for doing this. It sounds like it could have been paratyphoid which could infect the other birds in the race. I hope I am wrong and I also hope you have learned something from this

I am in total agreement.......WHY was the bird sent to begin with? I would expect that your country has governing rules much like ours.
It's actually a crying shame that such a rule even has to exist.........we, as humans, should know better.......but obviously all of us don't........

Lovebirds

· #6 · May 9, 2009

Bezz said:
Hi all

Yesterday i noticed one of my birds looking like it had hurt its one
foot.

Bezz

Bezz said:
When i basketed the birds all seemed to be fine, i could not see anything wrong with it!

Bezz

But, you just stated above that you noticed the bird looked like it was hurt.

Bezz

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 9, 2009

Lovebirds said:
But, you just stated above that you noticed the bird looked like it was hurt.

That is exactly my point!

The bird looked like it was hurt, but after examining it i could not find anything wrong and my thoughts were that the Electronic ring on the leg hindered her.

And please i am already hurt because of my loss and only wanted some views from others, not a sentence!

Bezz

Lovebirds

· #8 · May 9, 2009

Bezz said:
That is exactly my point!

The bird looked like it was hurt, but after examining it i could not find anything wrong and my thoughts were that the Electronic ring on the leg hindered her.

And please i am already hurt because of my loss and only wanted some views from others, not a sentence!

Bezz

OK. You're right...........I apologize.......but I hope that in the future.....if there's ANY doubt....always err on the side of caution.
There was a reason that you noticed that bird, and it wouldn't have hurt anything to just leave ONE bird at home, "just in case".........
I'm very sorry that the bird died, but keep an eye on the other birds. Sometimes these guys die and we don't know why, but SOMETHING happened to that bird, and just because the others made it home "ok", doesn't mean that nothing is wrong.
I'm corresponding with someone now that had a bird just "die" yesterday. No symptoms that they noticed and we sort of chalked it up to sh** happens........however, today, he's found another one, so something IS going on, whether he can tell or not........
So..........just beware and observe for the next few days.

Bezz

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 9, 2009

Lovebirds said:
OK. You're right...........I apologize.......but I hope that in the future.....if there's ANY doubt....always err on the side of caution.
There was a reason that you noticed that bird, and it wouldn't have hurt anything to just leave ONE bird at home, "just in case".........
I'm very sorry that the bird died, but keep an eye on the other birds. Sometimes these guys die and we don't know why, but SOMETHING happened to that bird, and just because the others made it home "ok", doesn't mean that nothing is wrong.
I'm corresponding with someone now that had a bird just "die" yesterday. No symptoms that they noticed and we sort of chalked it up to sh** happens........however, today, he's found another one, so something IS going on, whether he can tell or not........
So..........just beware and observe for the next few days.

Appology accepted!

I definately will keep an eye on them as our races starts in 3 weeks time.

Bezz

Lovebirds

· #10 · May 9, 2009

Bezz said:
Appology accepted!

I definately will keep an eye on them as our races starts in 3 weeks time.

Bezz

Thankfully, ours are almost over.............I didn't ship this week and won't ship next week.......so I'm done..............they want to put our birds up in any old weather.........it's not THAT important to me.

RodSD

· #11 · May 10, 2009

Err on the safe side (caution). Our birds can lie to us with respect to what is going on inside them. They might not look sick, but inside they are probably sick. But then again, it is one of those things when bird just suddenly died and we wondered why.

Revolution Lofts

· #12 · May 10, 2009

I had 19 deaths in the winter cutting my flock down the half. Deaths are always a sad part of keeping pigeons but its something that has to happen.

Its not your fault, and I don't race so my say isn't much but there is a possibility that your pigeon was going to die anyway (because you didn't know something was wrong with him/her cause she looked normal so you couldn't give her medical assistance.)

Anyways, I believe what has to happen, happens. I used to take the deaths in my loft real hard but after a day or two things went normal again. Its more like a mental stress.

RodSD

· #13 · May 11, 2009

I take my bird's death real hard because I treat them individually even what you call as pets. Obviously the more pigeons we have, and we have less involvement with each birds, then if they die, we have less attachments. I will be devastated if 19 birds died on me. Something is wrong with that. It could be the cold weather or some diseases. Most of my deaths/injuries are from a hawk. I only have 1 bird that died of a disease. I know each of my bird's personality and intelligence. I even have this bird that has a penchant for brown color!

ozzy1963

· #14 · May 15, 2009

ok now

Give the guy a break, if you read his post he checked the bird and could not find anything wrong with it. I probably would have kept the bird home just to make sure, but whos to say, if you checked the bird out and everything was ok, who knows??

Skyeking

· #15 · May 15, 2009

ozzy1963 said:
Give the guy a break, if you read his post he checked the bird and could not find anything wrong with it. I probably would have kept the bird home just to make sure, but whos to say, if you checked the bird out and everything was ok, who knows??

The best rule is: When in doubt, leave the bird out. The bird "looked like it was hurt", so it probably wasn't faking a sore foot/leg, they always act better when you pick them up, natural instinct.

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