First toss down whats the next jump 4 miles or??

I do not race but do train my birds for the area. I do North, West, South, East. I do each area at lease twice before I move on. I start at one mile, then five, ten, fifteen, twenty. twenty-five. After that I just release for exercise anytime I drive somewhere during the week.

Just because how quickly my birds learn the area and return home, for racing, Warren's plan on releasing birds along the racing route sounds like a good idea. Like anything is life each time you do it you find an easier way. I know my birds get faster coming home each time I release them from a certain spot.

The problem with more than one or two short tosses, is if they are ready they will Trip, on such short distances. I always moved mine up Faster. Train the way you feel is Right, but Training on only the line of flight for racing, Makes for Birds that do not have too think, and end up following. Dave

Training along the race course is great, but it's better to have more than one release point for each distance, or to try and train in a more fanned out area than just one straight line. That way, as Lucky said, they have to think and exercise those little brain muscles They also become more familiar with the area they'll be racing, and will probably pick up quicker on where to go. So train a little off to the left, a little off to the right, and a little down the middle, and work your way up.
If you happen to be traveling in another direction, you could take your birds with you as Big T suggested. That'll also give them some mental and physical exercise. But I wouldn't go out of my way to train in the complete opposite direction from the race stations, when I could be taking that time and money to go in the right direction.

I would say they were routing because of the report you give from Saturday mornings release. Moving them out to eight or ten miles would be my next release. As you do start moving them out make sure you have nice weather to give them the best chance to make it home.

Ace

To note as well Im releasing them by driving miles. I released them 4 miles driving which probably would be 2 miles air. I was going to do another toss like 2 miles from where I released them from but I tossed them up today an took everything I had all made it back fine. So tuesdays check up will be 10 miles.

is it ok to train my birmingham rollers this way, not far though, i mean could they make it about 3 miles after training, are they capeble of doing this kind of thing

TipplerBeni said:

To note as well Im releasing them by driving miles. I released them 4 miles driving which probably would be 2 miles air. I was going to do another toss like 2 miles from where I released them from but I tossed them up today an took everything I had all made it back fine. So tuesdays check up will be 10 miles.

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Glad to hear that your birds are making it home! I tossed my youngbirds at 10 miles this past weekend and they did great. Got home before I did. I almost feel like they want me to take them farther but I want to play it safe. It'll be 10 miles this coming weekend and then it's off to 20 miles for next.

Good luck!

Henry, If you can take them 10, and they are Healthy, 40 is NOTHING... Dave

Cai508,
Different families of Birmingham rollers have varying degrees of "homing." If you want to toss, just use homers. Rollers were breed to roll on top of your lofts.

Birminghams get lost very easily as they were definitely not bred for homing ability. If they can come home from three miles, that's because they can see your property. If it wasn't for being able to see familiar land/birds, they'd be lost in a heartbeat.

if your going to take anything out thats not a homer I would start small 1 mile tosses. How high to your rollers fly? I had tipplers that i've taken out 30 miles but i think i was easy for them cause they would fly so high i believe they could see both coast of florida on a good clear day. But you dont really want to take rollers for a check up. There flipping would hold them back wouldnt it?

TipplerBeni said:

To note as well Im releasing them by driving miles. I released them 4 miles driving which probably would be 2 miles air. I was going to do another toss like 2 miles from where I released them from but I tossed them up today an took everything I had all made it back fine. So tuesdays check up will be 10 miles.

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I use a GPS. Once you have the loft location in your GPS you will know the exact distance of your releases. My main release point last year was 33.7 miles from the loft.

Ace

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Henry, If you can take them 10, and they are Healthy, 40 is NOTHING... Dave

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That;s very encouraging to hear Dave but I think I'll go with the increments of 10 idea. This is my first YB team and I want play it safe at this point. I'm aiming to make these birds my OB team for next years race season since I'm not going to race this year. I will for sure do the 40 mile after the 10 mile next year and I'll let you know how it turns out!

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if your going to take anything out thats not a homer I would start small 1 mile tosses. How high to your rollers fly? I had tipplers that i've taken out 30 miles but i think i was easy for them cause they would fly so high i believe they could see both coast of florida on a good clear day. But you dont really want to take rollers for a check up. There flipping would hold them back wouldnt it?

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Wow! You took your tipplers 30 miles out and they came back, that's great!

There is this site tossingtipplers.com that tosses his birds up to 150 miles and some still comes back! I think he is crazy, but seems to be a pioneer on this sort of thing. We won't know unless we try, right?

What is the Purpose in road training Tipplers? That is Silly. They are Bred to Fly High, and Long. even IF they Road Train Good, what is the point? they will Loft fly less, most likely. Dave

I would have to agree with Dave here on all fronts here. Road training them wouldn't do any good for competition. If you wanted to do it for fun then that's a different story.

Its the loft owners pleasure to see his tipplers come back from that distance. I know for me when i had tipplers I wanted birds that were smart just in case they got in a cloud or a wind gust pushed them to far off course. Also in NY its bragging rights. You take your birds to other peoples lofts or around where other people fly an let go your birds an try to pull there stock over an catch there birds. Its the game they play there. When I lived in NY i had about 250 birds and in about a mile radius there were 13 fliers with just as big if not bigger stocks. It just makes the birds smarter if they get mixed I think

I think maybe you are thinking of Flight Pigeons? Dave